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Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

#251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imho IQ scores aren’t a sufficient measure of intelligence, it’s very shaky science at best What do you propose as a replacement metric to determine if humans are getting dumber or not?

No idea. Why do we need to determine if humans are getting dumber or not?

Because it would explain what's happening in the world after 2019.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

#252

I attended an audience testing screener for Idiocracy before the film's final edit. I could not believe my eyes and ears, I loved it unlike anything I'd seen before, it was the hardest US culture satire I'd seen up to that point. Then the lights came up and the audience started giving their reviews, in an open mike fashion. They all identified with the "idiots" and were indignant insulted, and angry. I remember makin…

Many US citizens didn't get that Starship Troopers was a black comedy. There are serious video reviews taking it seriously as an action movie where the characters are true US heroes.

I have a feeling these people are the same as the ones you're talking about.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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post #123

I attended an audience testing screener for Idiocracy before the film's final edit. I could not believe my eyes and ears, I loved it unlike anything I'd seen before, it was the hardest US culture satire I'd seen up to that point. Then the lights came up and the audience started giving their reviews, in an open mike fashion. They all identified with the "idiots" and were indignant insulted, and angry. I remember makin…

It breaks my heart when I hear people outraged about Onion stories, not because that they fall for them, but because they know they have a hard time telling truth from fiction.

The whole D&D vs Christianity vs Tolkien mess of the 90s grew on this inability to tolerate fiction that proofs anyone could invent your life ordering fiction.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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Not quite sure "Ow My Balls / Jackass" argument should count, the Jackass franchise is older than Idiocracy and was most likely an inspiration for that bit.

For some reason that also reminds me of the TV shows in Robocop. e.g. Climbing for Dollars and It’s Not My Problem! When I first saw Robocop these looked so crass it was obvious satire. Now...? Well, I'd buy that for a dollar.

Climbing for Dollars is from The Running Man[0], the Arnie version from 1987 - same year as Robocop.

Then in 2001 was "Series 7"[1] (which I got flashbacks of from the 2013 White Bear[2] episode of Black Mirror).

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man_(1987_film)

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_7:_The_Contenders

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Bear_(Black_Mirror)

Trivia for music nerds like me: Mick Fleetwood and Dweezil Zappa are in The Running Man.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

#255
Idiocracy had the better US president.

When they found the smartest man in the US, they gave him a job to solve their problems.

Trump & Co. wouldn’t do that, quite the opposite

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

#256
Eh. While I do believe that most people are really stupid and this is the core problem with democracy, this website is too sensational. Example:

> Medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death in the US.

Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Imagine:

1. Medieval times -> literally zero deaths attributed to medical errors because there's no medical practice in the first place

2. We can cure all diseases and eliminated all traffic accidents using autonomous cars -> obviously 90% of deaths will be medical errors because that's literally the only thing you can realistically die from

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

#257

As I got older, I always wondered if everyone thought they were the smart one and everyone else must be the idiocracy. I seem to remember Homer Simpson thinking something to that effect (“Boy, everyone is stupid except me”). I can imagine that happening today, esp politically.

There are studies where 93% of drivers believe they are better than average drivers...

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

#258

I attended an audience testing screener for Idiocracy before the film's final edit. I could not believe my eyes and ears, I loved it unlike anything I'd seen before, it was the hardest US culture satire I'd seen up to that point. Then the lights came up and the audience started giving their reviews, in an open mike fashion. They all identified with the "idiots" and were indignant insulted, and angry. I remember makin…

Have they edited stuff out because of the audience reaction? Do you own an unedited copy?

I own the official release, and upon first viewing I do remember slight changes from that screener version, but nothing material. I half expected all or at least some of the brand names to be replaced because the film was so insulting towards them, but that all remained. Starbucks whores were okay, I guess, with Starbucks.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

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post #233
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It breaks my heart when I hear people outraged about Onion stories, not because that they fall for them, but because they know they have a hard time telling truth from fiction.

I think people don't like Onion stories because they're not funny, they're just pretentious and political. For instance, their famous 'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens article they post all over their page whenever there is some high profile gun related crime. It's all over their page and no doubt they get a bump in traffic from smug people who feel it's clever. It's just so exha…

I'm not in the USA, but I think the issue is not so much the joke getting tiresome, but the repeat school shootings. Maybe if there was work done to stop the shootings, then the joke wouldn't keep getting repeated.

Re: Are We Idiocracy Yet?

#260

As I got older, I always wondered if everyone thought they were the smart one and everyone else must be the idiocracy. I seem to remember Homer Simpson thinking something to that effect (“Boy, everyone is stupid except me”). I can imagine that happening today, esp politically.

The tricky question is: how do you tell when you're actually right vs just doing the same thing Homer was

I feel like there are clear signs, but either people have cognitive blind spots or are just obstinate. For example, you hear people complain that they've been for a bajillion interviews and still don't get hired (hint: the problem is you), or they're always single even though they go on countless dates (hint: the problem is you) or they're overweight and can't lose weight no matter what they try (hint: the problem is you). Maybe an inability to introspect yourself in an objective way? Maybe a deep seated belief that the problem cannot actually be _you_, it must be an external factor, so you seek that. Maybe you're not being gaslit, maybe the ever-present smell of shit really does emanate from under your shoe.
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