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Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by toast0 »

jojobas wrote: post #129
toast0 wrote: post #127

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A lot of people are paying for their data. If a web page uses 40 mb and you have 4GB of data quota per month, you can only load 100 pages per month. Apparently the article text describes the page actually using 500 MB over 5 minutes, which means a 4GB quota can be used for less than an hour of reading. Maybe it's different if advertisers or publishers are paying viewer's data costs. But some amount of restraint might…

I mean, the utility that matters is the utility for PC Gamer of showing everyone the ads vs some people refusing to read them over data concerns. You might be paying for data, but you're not paying PC Gamer for reading them, so your opinion only starts to matter when you quit reading them over how much data they use.

I imagine people remember what site they were on when the data usage warnings came up, and they don't come back.

The question I guess is really if PC Gamer earns more by sending 100 mb / minute and chasing some eyeballs away faster, than by using a reasonable amount of data and losing eyeballs at the normal rate of attrition for written word outlets.

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Post by microtonal »

DrewADesign wrote: post #200
Aurornis wrote: post #73

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> Three days into the month these phones are just ewaste. If someone needs a phone like this for email and job searching and has no other option, 2G speeds will work. It’s not e-waste for the intended purpose. It would be great if they got higher days caps, though, because let’s be realistic in acknowledging that they’re not only going to use it for Google Maps, email, and job search apps.

If 2G speeds were what they were when it was heavily used? Sure. Nowadays? Not in my experience. I got downgraded to Google Fi’s 2G in a well-traveled part of Virginia using a flagship Samsung and I couldn’t even load directions on Google Maps where I’d already downloaded most of the map for offline use. 2G ain’t like it used to be when it was still given a second thought by providers.

It’s not only the providers. 2G is 120kbit max on a lot of networks and 50kbit on average. Even a 1MB site, that is lean by today’s standards will take 160 seconds to load.

2G is really from a different age. Does anyone remember WAP and i-mode? I was certainly not able to afford data back then, but that is what all the business’y types were raving about.

Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by b345 »

pineaux wrote: post #250
OptionX wrote: post #249

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>"how does it affect our revenue?" Simple, you can serve a reasonable amount of unobtrusive ads and I and others might turn off adblock to support the publication or you can do what you're doing, I'll keep it on and see no ads at all.

Nobody is turning off ad blockers.

I do. I have turned off UBlock Origin at the learnopengl site as well others where the ads are unobtrusive enough to not block the view completely or require several actions on my part to view the contents. It also helps that the content is not "SEO optimised" bullcrap.

Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by [deleted] »

pas wrote: post #82
abustamam wrote: post #71

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But PC gamer isn't downloading 8mb wallpapers or 100mb 4k music videos. They're downloading ads and and other nonsense. Plus, if I decide to download a music video, that's on me. I chose to download a 100mb file. If I just want to read what amounts to a few paragraphs of text with some branding, I don't think it's fair to say that I'm also choosing to download 40+mb of nonsense that isn't text. Maybe in this new mode…

not using an adblocker is also on the user yes, it would be better if all ads were text only, so there wouldn't be this adtech fucking warfare for people's attention

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Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by Defletter »

pineaux wrote: post #250
OptionX wrote: post #249

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>"how does it affect our revenue?" Simple, you can serve a reasonable amount of unobtrusive ads and I and others might turn off adblock to support the publication or you can do what you're doing, I'll keep it on and see no ads at all.

Nobody is turning off ad blockers.

Yup, I keep mine enabled at all times. Anytime I've tried selectively disabling them, I get burnt with increasingly intrusive ads. I might be convinced to enable some kind of "ethical ads" filter that only permits ads are known to be unobtrusive and not track, but then you need to trust that whoever maintains that list wont succumb to incentives.

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Post by nxtbl »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #116
mrighele wrote: post #44

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What is your screen resolution ? I have the same setup but got different results. Initial load, after closing cookie banner and another one, was about 500KiB (200KiB transferred). After scrolling to the bottom I got 1.7MiB/1.0MiB transferred. I guess you're using a retina-like display ? (I got there results with a 1080p screen)

> What is your screen resolution ? 1920 x 1080 @ 100% > I guess you're using a retina-like display ? I don't think so. It's a T14 Gen 2a.

Results appear to vary. 2.5-3.4MB with 2560x1600 resolution. Firefox + uBlock + uMatrix + DDG essentials.

Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by benterix »

pineaux wrote: post #250
OptionX wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"how does it affect our revenue?" Simple, you can serve a reasonable amount of unobtrusive ads and I and others might turn off adblock to support the publication or you can do what you're doing, I'll keep it on and see no ads at all.

Nobody is turning off ad blockers.

While I agree with you in general, I am one of the very few people who do it for the small amount of sites I support. This is not a smart decision from the technical point of view but it's been fine so far.
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