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Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Are you aware that smoking used to be allowed on planes? We didn't stop allowing it because of a rash of airplane fires either.

Yes, I'm fully aware. And it is emphatically irrelevant. It's kind of ridiculous to suggest the original motivations for the rule somehow render the associated risks on people's safety, lives, and properties permanently ineligible for consideration.

Japanese pilots still smoke every flight

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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We need to also ban people taking calls on speaker in public places like cafes or trains.

I don’t think United airlines has the authority to do that. That is to say, do you really want a federal law passed about this? I vote we go with social shaming. Worked for cigarettes.

Some cultures don't really get phased by shaming in that way, unfortunately.

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They tell people not to do it on busses but it still happens, typically people are more respectful at night but not always. However I never worry about terrorists on the bus, they would get jacked up fast

Blasting your phone at volumes louder than the ambient noise is social terrorism

what's the goal? without a goal it's just noise pollution, the audio equivalent of drunk driving and bumping into a lot of people just a bit

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> Still annoying? Naturally it is extremely rude. If two people have a conversation in public both pay attention to the surroundings and feedback to change their volume tone and topics. If you put someone on speaker without introducing everyone present then they should hang up on you.

> If you put someone on speaker without introducing everyone present then they should hang up on you. This is silly. Just tell the person you are talking to that they are on speaker. Assuming the party on the phone has been informed and the volume is not excessive, having a conversation on speaker is equivalent to having a physical conversation in person.

Silly is not explaining why you can't put your phone to your ear like a polite person who follows etiquette. Polite people naturally won't really just hang up, ones that know etiquette will pretend its more convenient for you to call them back when you can and others will just note you are rude.

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> If you put someone on speaker without introducing everyone present then they should hang up on you. This is silly. Just tell the person you are talking to that they are on speaker. Assuming the party on the phone has been informed and the volume is not excessive, having a conversation on speaker is equivalent to having a physical conversation in person.

Silly is not explaining why you can't put your phone to your ear like a polite person who follows etiquette. Polite people naturally won't really just hang up, ones that know etiquette will pretend its more convenient for you to call them back when you can and others will just note you are rude.

Silly is not explaining why you can’t just pass a handwritten note like a polite person who follows etiquette. Polite people naturally won’t really just start speaking out loud; ones that know etiquette will pretend it’s more convenient for you to read their note when you can, and others will just note you are rude.

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Lol was wondering how long I would have to scroll before someone pointed out the obvious. People talking about the "collapse of the societal contract", like I wonder how that happened....

Are there some dog whistles in your comment and its parent? If not then could you restate your point more clearly, it’s not immediately apparent what you’re talking about.

Explore various countries around the world and you'll see the idea of a quiet, peaceful, train ride is very much culturally dependent.

Some places and cultures just have different norms.

Take a wild guess what happens when you allow an influx of people from those cultures and norms into a country with opposing norms, with poor frameworks and resources for assimilation?

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Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

Yes, it is. I've been on a long distance train and there was some guy watching a movie on his tablet. Sleeping. In the quiet zone.

Rude, loud people usually don’t react kindly when you call them out on their behavior. It’s practically asking for trouble. That may be one reason why many people avoid conflict, even if it bothers them a lot.

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