So, how do I use this OpenClaw to automate actually useful things, like sweeping floor, washing dishes and doing laundry?
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That's really cool. But wouldn't have been quicker and simpler to add ".bun/" to the pattern of authorized paths the same way it presumably works for ".npm/"?
It didn’t survive OpenClaw upgrades unfortunately, it ended up killing my OpenClaw gateway when I asked it to self upgrade. Bun is marked as an experimental package manager and the recommended way to run OpenClaw gateway is node so I wanted to do it properly. I would have liked Bun to be supported property. I’d raise a PR against the repo but looking at the 4.5K open PRs, it doesn’t give me much hope about it ever ge…
Fair enough, I had not realized the sheer number of outstanding PRs!
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#253Gives me mongodb vibes. This whole Ai coding thing too. On one side, religious loud following, on the other side the nay sayers. We'll probably end up in the middle.
Fwiw, Claude and Codex are very very good at SQL and have actually taught me some new tricks. No reason to use mongodb or firebase in 2026: https://postgresisenough.dev
Did an AI write this? Completely missed the point ^^'
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> Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade) Two decades! It will be 20 this April. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automator_(macOS) Though technically it’s deprecated in favour of the clusterfuck of bugs and limitations that is Shortcuts. But you’re right, OpenClaw seems to be another fad being used mostly by “influencers” and “thought leaders” to show how awesome and productive they are at… Writing bl…
And before that we already had AppleScript.
And interestingly due to some very clever integrations[0], sending Apple Events (the underlying tech for the actual IPC communication done with AppleScript) is very easy to do in Swift. Easier than in AppleScript actually!
It’s a shame most apps do not support Apple Events anymore, though.
An example of use: https://github.com/Frizlab/apple-music-to-slack/blob/90964bb...
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#255I keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated…
> It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated at all (do you really need to be reminded to make coffee?) I've posted about this before, I call it the Jarvis effect. > For years we had people trying to make voice agents, like Iron Man's Jarvis, a thing. You had people super bought into the idea that if you could talk to your computer and say "Jarvis, book me a flight from New…
Interestingly, your example is an actual thing we used to have.
In 1996, I picked up the phone on my desk, dialed a 3 digit code, said “I need to fly to Los Angeles on Tuesday morning, returning Wednesday evening”. A couple hours later, an envelope appeared in my inbox with plane tickets, rental car reservation and hotel reservation.
Then every company in the world fired all the secretaries over the course of the next few years to cut costs, and we’ve collectively forgotten that it was ever like that.
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> Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them Generic problem of any Linux newbie. You get good at solving problems and it's so enjoyable so you end up creating more of them.
Cough factorio cough :)
As someone with a default mode network that is stuck in the "on' position, that game is the only one that I had to quit playing for my mental health.
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> Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them Generic problem of any Linux newbie. You get good at solving problems and it's so enjoyable so you end up creating more of them.
Cough factorio cough :)
Or kubernetes, the factorio for Ops
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Patterns i keep seeing: Once you get the dopamine hit of having an ai assistant do something in the real world it becomes an hammer you want to use on everything Instead of being a problem solver you start to become a problem hunter, and you invent them in order to solve them
This sounds similar to what you feel when learning to program for the first time.
IMO it is 100% this - these AI tools are letting anyone solve problems that were previously in the domain of programmers.
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> So ... don't give it write access to your email? > (…) > Oh sure, so don't give it write access to anything important. And make backups. If this conversation continues much longer, we’ll end up with “don’t use it at all”. If I can’t trust a piece of software with anything important, why am I wasting my time fiddling with it? Might as well go play a video game or go do literally anything else entertaining.
> If I can’t trust a piece of software with anything important Not what I said. As I've repeatedly said in this thread: Plenty of use cases where you don't give it access to email and write access to files. The comment you're replying to has an example of that. > Might as well go play a video game or go do literally anything else entertaining. True of most hobbies, right? I knew people who 20 years ago used to spend…
> True of most hobbies, right?
If everyone treated OpenClaw as a hobby, you might have a point, but people are using it for work in ways which will affect millions of other people when they’re hacked or the agent fucks up something important.
You already know how Meta’s AI Safety Director borked her email. Here’s the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word asking to be pwned:
https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assis...
> Also: Is anyone telling you to use it?
You don’t need to use the technology to be affected by it. Ask Scott Shambaugh:
https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on...