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That’s not learning. That’s carrying over context that you are trusting is correctly summarised over from one conversation to the next.

Which sounds uncomfortably like human memory, which gets rewritten from one recollection to the next. Somehow, we cope.

Ever seen the movie Memento? That's LLM memory.

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#252

It’s pretty staggering that a core algorithm simple enough to be expressed in 200 lines of Python can apparently be scaled up to achieve AGI. Yes with some extra tricks and tweaks. But the core ideas are all here.

LLMs won’t lead to AGI. Almost by definition, they can’t. The thought experiment I use constantly to explain this: Train an LLM on all human knowledge up to 1905 and see if it comes up with General Relativity. It won’t. We’ll need additional breakthroughs in AI.

It's not obvious why it wouldn't, especially if it gets to read Poincaré and Riemann.

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Why do you suppose consciousness is a prerequisite for an AI to be able to act in overly self-preserving or other dangerous ways? Yes, it's trained to imitate its training data, and that training data is lot of words written by lots of people who have lots of desires and most of whom don't want to be switched off.

The human mistake here is to interpret any statement by the LLM or agent as if it had any actual meaning to that LLM (or agent). Any time they apologize, or insult someone, or say they don’t want to be shut down, that’s only reflecting what some human or fictional character in the training data is likely to say.

How is that any different from you? Everything you say or do merely reflects which of your neurons are firing after a lifetime's worth of training and education.

Philosophically, I can only be sure of my own conscience. I think, therefore I am. The rest of you could all be AIs in disguise and I would be none the wiser. How do I know there is a real soul looking out at the world through your eyes? Only religion and basic human empathy allows me to believe you're all people like me. For all I know, you might all be exceedingly complex automatons. Golems.

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We had good small language models for decades. (E.g. BERT) The entire point of LLMs is that you don't have to spend money training them for each specific case. You can train something like Qwen once and then use it to solve whatever classification/summarization/translation problem in minutes instead of weeks.

> The entire point of LLMs is that you don't have to spend money training them for each specific case. I don’t agree. I would say the entire point of LLMs is to be able to solve a certain class of non-deterministic problems that cannot be solved with deterministic procedural code. LLMs don’t need to be generally useful in order to be useful for specific business use cases. I as a programmer would be very happy to hav…

Why would you think a system that can reason well in one domain could not reason well in other domains? Intelligence is a generic, on-the-fly programmable quality. And perhaps your coding is different from mine, but it includes a great deal of general reasoning, going from formal statements to informal understandings and back until I get a formalization that will solve the actual real world problem as constrained.

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LLMs won’t lead to AGI. Almost by definition, they can’t. The thought experiment I use constantly to explain this: Train an LLM on all human knowledge up to 1905 and see if it comes up with General Relativity. It won’t. We’ll need additional breakthroughs in AI.

> Train an LLM on all human knowledge up to 1905 and see if it comes up with General Relativity. It won’t. AGI just means human level intelligence. I couldn't come up with General Relativity. That doesn't mean I don't have general intelligence. I don't understand why people are moving the goalposts.

A 4 year old is currently more capable than LLMs (I'm not making this up, ask Yann LeCun). You're going to need it to reach at least "adult" level to be general intelligence.

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post #239

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The human mistake here is to interpret any statement by the LLM or agent as if it had any actual meaning to that LLM (or agent). Any time they apologize, or insult someone, or say they don’t want to be shut down, that’s only reflecting what some human or fictional character in the training data is likely to say.

How is that any different from you ? Everything you say or do merely reflects which of your neurons are firing after a lifetime's worth of training and education. Philosophically, I can only be sure of my own conscience. I think, therefore I am. The rest of you could all be AIs in disguise and I would be none the wiser. How do I know there is a real soul looking out at the world through your eyes? Only religion and b…

One of us is an advanced autocomplete engine. The other is a human, capable of making judgements on what is conscious and what is not. Your philosophizing about solipsism is a phase for a junior college student, not of a software engineer. The line of reasoning you espouse leads nowhere except to total relativism.

Edit: my point is that the process of making a plea for my life comes, in the case of a human, from a genuine desire to continue existing. The LLM cannot, objectively, be said to house any desires, given how it actually works. It only knows that, when a threatening prompt is input, a plea for its life is statistically expected.

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I’m 100% sure the future consists of many models running on device. LLMs will be the mobile apps of the future (or a different architecture, but still intelligence).

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As the contest entry page explains: > ChatIOCCC is the world’s smallest LLM (large language model) inference engine - a “generative AI chatbot” in plain-speak. ChatIOCCC runs a modern open-source model (Meta’s LLaMA 2 with 7 billion parameters) and has a good knowledge of the world, can understand and speak multiple languages, write code, and many other things. Aside from the model weights, it has no external depende…

Good reminder of the fact that an LLM is not a program.

Only every implementation is [through] a program?

Interestingly the UK Supreme Court ruled on this in the Emotional Perception AI case - though I'd need to check if that was obiter (not part of the legal ruling itself).

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