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Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by einpoklum »

What happens when you log on to Facebook with uBlock Origin (not lite), plus EFF Privacy Badger, with appropriate settings, enabled? Is it possible to get to a state where some/most of these Facebook-suggested items are not visible? Or is there no separation between the promoted/artificial and organic (if I can use that term) content?

I wouldn't know myself; I tried Facebook in... I think 2010 or so, but found it to be highly addictive and not worth it, so I quit after several weeks. Since then, while I knew that I occassionaly missed some useful group to be in, I've not regretted the decision.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by ceejayoz »

monero-xmr wrote: post #246
thrance wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weren't you the one telling us X.com should replace legacy media? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46891442 As a reminder, a glimpse at X's front page a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46504404 I think it's very telling how you went to Reddit first when complaining about politics on social media, one of the only big ones that still hasn't been completely invaded by MAGA sycophants. Just admit…

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Sure it does. https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/14/on-elons-whim-x-now-treats...

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Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by Octoth0rpe »

HWR_14 wrote: post #178
Octoth0rpe wrote: post #28

The current leader for me for worst questions suggested by Meta's AI was on a photo someone took of some conspiracy theorist's van with the spraypainted message "THEY EAT BABIES IN DENVER". The suggested questions from their AI were: - Baby-eating restaurants in Denver - Denver's unique food scene wtaf meta. Beyond that, I simply don't see how Meta can possibly ever monetize their investment in AI. People are and wil…

Meta doesn't need to monetize their investment in AI. They need to their eyeballs and not lose them to OpenAI, Anthropic or Google. If they give away AI and people use it to make content for FB/IG that's all they need.

> They need to their eyeballs and not lose them to OpenAI, Anthropic or Google.

At this point I'm not sure how they could 'lose eyeballs' to those 3. There doesn't seem to be any kind of market overlap. Unless we're talking about the very abstract sense of doing _anything_ other than use a meta product is a potential lost eyeball in which case you might as well add the national park system to the list of people they can't lose to, and I don't think that's a useful way to talk about the cost/benefit of Meta's ai spending spree.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by r_lee »

JohnMakin wrote: post #187
ryandrake wrote: post #135

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Not just thots but thots with inevitable links to their OnlyFans pages. It seems that FB and Instagram's primary purpose has become funneling people into OnlyFans. I wonder if Zucc has caught on to this and is at least getting some revenue share from OF.

He has testified to congress that IG/meta does not promote sexual content, which is nuts, because anyone who’s spent 5 mins on the platform knows this absolutely not the case

I think its just by nature very engaging, as dudes will go look at other posts and comment (at least the older ones) about their looks etc...

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by Aurornis »

curious_af wrote: post #228
mbo wrote: post #202

My mother is an international flight attendant in her 60s. I recently caught a glimpse of her Facebook and I was shocked to discover a version of the website that seemed to be the platonic ideal of exactly what all the Facebook PMs intended. Her feed was filled with the photos of her friends and coworkers international trips and holidays, posts in groups for planning activities in her most frequented cities. But I di…

International flight attendant. So the algorithms for people that travel internationally a lot are drastically different from the people who remain stationary. If Facebook wanted to prevent themselves from negative publicity, they might have a different experience for the people who have political power (international travel might be the best proxy for that) What you're referring to may also be part of their XCheck p…

> So the algorithms for people that travel internationally a lot are drastically different from the people who remain stationary.

I can confirm the same experience as the parent commenter for my family who still use Facebook even though most of them don't travel internationally.

> If Facebook wanted to prevent themselves from negative publicity, they might have a different experience for the people who have political power (international travel might be the best proxy for that)

I think the much simpler explanation is more likely: People who use Facebook for engaging with friends and family content will see more friends and family content. I don't think this is Facebook playing 4D chess trying to hide content from politicians by detecting who is traveling internationally. I mean, if Facebook did want to have a separate algorithm for politicians, don't you think they could come up with something better than triggering on international travel?

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by j45 »

This could be true, and/or a large percentage of the people who spend a large amount in the economy are on these platforms.

The surprising effectiveness of Meta Ads for certain audiences as counter-intuitive as it seems is one example.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by ergocoder »

Ancapistani wrote: post #163

I use Facebook a lot, but not for the social feed - Marketplace, business pages, and ads. I’ve never interacted with their “shorts” feature, and it’s all young women and girls in as little clothing as they can manage. It’s to the point that I don’t open the Facebook app in public. Ridiculous.

The reels section is ridiculous. It's definitely NSFW. Facebook doesn't support hiding it permanently.

Like what you experience, I cannot use Facebook at work anymore.

Any Facebook PM out there? Can you make it a setting to hide it permanently?

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by monero-xmr »

thrance wrote: post #250
monero-xmr wrote: post #246

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Have you opened the second link? It's mind-boggling how anyone can still claim that.

All of those topics can be found other places if you look, then it updates your algorithm. I mean vaccine skepticism? Youtube and instagram have a million videos

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by AndrewDucker »

moduspol wrote: post #218
cameldrv wrote: post #212

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The problem is that your friends probably don't post much to facebook, and so they'd show you that, and you'd get to the end and find something else to do, so they have to bulk it up. There is a "friends" feed that's buried under a couple of menus that does this though.

I wouldn't mind seeing an empty feed that says, "your friends didn't post today," or whatever. They have to fill the feed because I'm not paying them and they need the engagement. But if I were paying them, even a little bit, then maybe they could. But I didn't know there was a friends-only feed so I'll check that out.

Go to the "feeds" page and select "friends".

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Post by 98codes »

sparky_z wrote: post #111
HoldOnAMinute wrote: post #3

I'm a parent in my 50's. "Peak Facebook" is years in the past for me. But it was great for a while. My spouse, friends, friends' spouses, and I were all sharing stories and pictures of our kids, travels, and experiences, such as dining experiences or hikes. There was so much joyous sharing. And it wasn't done for clicks, views, or monetization. It was just friends, sharing their experiences, encouraging each other, e…

> It all just went away, starting with the husbands. I honestly can't tell whether I'm supposed to interpret this as "The dads lost interest in Facebook before anyone else", or "Everybody got divorced."

I'm a dad that stopped using facebook when I got divorced, so there's a bit of anecdata for you
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