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I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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You can still selfhost MinIO you just have to pay. You also pay for software when renting a cloud service so this seems similar.

But, as far as I can see in their site, the price for MinIO AIStor isn't even public, you have to "Request Pricing". And that's never a good sign.

Well MinIO has some weird quirks but I wanted to point out that "open source and free" and "self hosting" are not the same.

MinIO took away the source, not the self hosting.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Great post, I did a similar switch mid last year. Hetzner was something I already used, so I just doubled down. I have a single OVH instance where I ma playing with Openclaw, but that was because I was having issues with Hetzner that day on their new instance page (was fixed the next day) I use Bunny for my CDN, I just wish they have the capabilityt to route IPv4 and IPv6 traffic to IPv6 only origins. If your origin…

Like the author, we self-host our git repos at work with Gitea, and it's working very well and brings a rather large set of features you'd expect from a GH alternative. A great thing is that it's almost fully compatible with Github actions, so migrating an existing CI/CD should not be too painful. If you plan to move, make sure to read this first: https://docs.gitea.com/usage/actions/comparison#missing-feat... For su…

Same can be said for Forgejo but then it’s not VC backed

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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I was kind of interested in the content, but I am so overloaded with AI slop by now, that reading this generated text gives me nausea. I was looking to see why they landed on this stack, but there are no alternatives or evaluation criteria listed - given the generated article, I wonder how much of the infra was selected by an LLM.

Claude helped write the article. It is 2026. I proof read it though and yes, giving an LLM a list of specific criteria of what you are looking for in a product is actually a pretty good experience.

> Claude helped write the article. It is 2026.

If that's the case, why do we have to suffer through an AI-generated article? Just give us the prompt.

This topic interests me but I stopped reading as soon as I noticed the slop. I'd much rather read a couple of human-written paragraphs with your personal experience.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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HN is going to skew towards people with password managers & concerns about vendors locking you out. I think most people just want low friction - be that 'Sign in with', or passwordless-based authentication like 404media (you want to sign in? You've been emailed a code)

> passwordless-based authentication like 404media (you want to sign in? You've been emailed a code) How is this low friction to manually copy/paste a code from email as opposed to allow a password manager to log me in automatically?! This kind of authentication is the stupid current trend I hate the most TBH.

> > HN is going to skew towards people with password managers

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Thank you for this. I'm in Europe with an established SaaS that's been running in production for years and I've converged on a similar stack (OVHCloud instead of Hetzner). However, I've realized you can stay sovereign and independent in any jurisdiction (not just Europe) just by simplifying your stack and running a few baremetal servers in-house. Just buy a few Mac Studios and run them in-house with power supply back…

> Managed databases are a scam. I, too, once believed this. Then I had the displeasure of watching a $10,000 server fail during Christmas travel (about 20 years ago now). A single RAID drive failed. Then, during the rebuild, a second drive failed. Then the RAID controller itself failed catastrophically, losing all the RAID volume metadata. When we restored from backup, we discovered that the sysadmin who had just qui…

Yeah but even with managed database services you don't know if your provider has invested into proper testing of their recovery so you have to test it anyway. Major services like DigitalOcean have been known to shit the bed with your backups. If you don't test your backup recovery, you don't know if you're screwed even if you're paying for "managed" services.

I test my backup recovery several times a month by actually baking into our CI/CD workflow under certain conditions. The entire production database gets restored from backup every week.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Great post, I did a similar switch mid last year. Hetzner was something I already used, so I just doubled down. I have a single OVH instance where I ma playing with Openclaw, but that was because I was having issues with Hetzner that day on their new instance page (was fixed the next day) I use Bunny for my CDN, I just wish they have the capabilityt to route IPv4 and IPv6 traffic to IPv6 only origins. If your origin…

Why do you need to move from Porkbun though? I don't get it.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

#259

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> passwordless-based authentication like 404media (you want to sign in? You've been emailed a code) How is this low friction to manually copy/paste a code from email as opposed to allow a password manager to log me in automatically?! This kind of authentication is the stupid current trend I hate the most TBH.

> > HN is going to skew towards people with password managers

But everyone has a password manager now. They come builtin to all major browsers, Apple ecosystem, etc. My non-technical girlfriend uses one.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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It's also difficult to find providers for competetive large-scale non-transactional emails, i.e. marketing and newsletter mails. None comes close to AWS, closest comes are messageflow (PL), elasticemail (PL), brevo (FR). Other players like Scaleway TEM (FR) and Lettermint (NL) don't offer non-transactional.

Yes, exactly! Marketing emails are a whole other story. I was planning on mailjet - thoughts?

Using it for both transactional and marketing emails (but "only" for thousands of recipients) for some years. Could need some polish IMO, but the core offering is solid. Support is helpful, too.
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