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A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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Whenever split keyboards come up, ulnar deviation is mentioned, and non-split keyboard users are depicted to be using the keyboard like this (image from the post): https://www.justinmklam.com/posts/2026/02/beginners-guide-sp... I don't know if it's just me, but I don't use the keyboard like that. I know the illustration is said to be exaggerated, but still. There is no need to squeeze your hands in front of the keybo…

I think a shockingly high number of people really do type Z with their little finger, X with their ring finger, and C with their middle finger. It's the only way I can explain how they end up that way in columnar layouts so often. This is madness to me. That would wreak havoc on a wrist. Type Z with the ring finger, X with the middle finger, and C and V with the index finger, just like you type M with your right inde…

I totally agree

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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My personal experience after switching to Colemak is mostly neutral. Speed is about the same after some training, around 70 WPM. Comfort, maybe improved a bit, but no life changing. Some people claim that they went from 60 WPM on Qwerty to over 100 WPM on some other newly designed layout, but my experience is clear: if you do it for the speed you will be disappointed.

I'd guess the speed improvement in those cases likely came from learning a better technique, like touch typing and using more of your fingers. Afaik a lot, if not most, of the fastest typists are still on qwerty.

I definitely learned to touch type with Dvorak, because I couldn't look at the keyboard anymore to get help.

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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I used a Kinesis Advantage for YEARS AND YEARS until I let it go ahead of a x-country move last year. It needed a bunch of repairs at that point, and I had drifted into using a different keyboard, so it seemed rational. Since settling in our new home, though, I've been kinda pining for another one. The disadvantage of the KA though is that it's huge on the desk. The 360 seems like it might be a BIT more space efficie…

I was on the Ergodox Ez for many years which is also quite big. I was unhappy with how much space it took up on my desk. I switched to a Totem keyboard, a 38 key split, and while it took a while to get used to and feelings of doubt, I've eventually become very happy and settled on this keyboard. It pretty much solves all of my needs and I don't have too much interesting in further experimentation. I did want to try t…

I actually just ordered Kinesis' Ergo yesterday!

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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Can you recommend one that is clearly better that ergodox in every manner?

Lots of options, but the one I use and would recommend is the Iris: https://keeb.io/products/iris-se-kit Advantages over the Ergodox: 1. No pointless layer of "inner" keys that you never use 2. The thumb keys are closer to the main keyboard, so more of them are in a natural reach, rather than being a big stretch (this is the biggest one in usage) 3. Uses all 1u keys, so greater keycap compatibility (any ortho kit wil…

Ergodox offers extra keys, they are not a disadvantage, they are a trade-off.

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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I've been inputting Devanagari with a 30% ortho keyboard lately using QMK. ऐसे अति मुश्किल नहीं है । I have an extra layer for nicher inputs just as I do with my usual Roman text. I'm not aware of any writing systems that normally require multiple layers. The most complex I can think of is Hangul, and they all should translate pretty directly to a smaller keyboard.

Any language that has more than 30-35(?) letters needs layers. Even french and german need layers (shift or right alt) for all the stuff like ß or adding accents like é è ê ë

Ah that makes sense. For Hindi in Roman, I input characters like ṅ ḍ, but I have a one-shot layer for that on my layout.

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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I resent the idea of an absolute standard of ergonomics or typing technique. I often use my left thumb to key z/x/c/v/b. I often reach with my left index finger to key y/h/b. During certain chords, my hands often cross over the split. I tried multiple split keyboards over the period of 2 years and never grew out of these habits. I always wished, at the least, that some of the middle keys were duplicated between the t…

Curious if there are any split keyboards with "overlap", eg, the center of the keyboard is duplicated on both sides

The filco xacro m10sp is a 60% type board that splits down the middle, with a line of extra keys on each side of the center

Gives each split space bar a bonus U1 key in the middle too

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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There are a bunch of aluminium Lily58 cases out there, they're not cheap tho. Most of the time keys popping out means your plate is too thick or the switch holes aren't a good fit. You can often improve it (and the sound) with some foam between the plate and the pcb - you can buy laser cut neoprene plate foam for lily58s, or you can always freehand it with a knife and a sheet of 2-3mm foam (it's not that hard and doe…

When I looked a year or two ago, there weren't any that were choc compatible. Recs? I think I would just buy a voyager at this point...

Boardsource's alu lily58 case supports using a standard pcb so you can use choc switches with it.

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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Glove80 is super nice, though rather expensive. I got one with low-force switches. It's very comfortable to type on, but between the low-force switches and slightly different layout from a regular keyboard (column-staggered, concave, symbols in different locations) I make more mistakes. So I usually type on my laptop instead, especially while coding.

If you are comfortable using the laptop keyboard what was your motivation to buy the glove80? I use that as my daily driver but if I didn't get tendonitis from normal keyboards then I wouldn't have bought it.

The laptop keyborad is good enough, but I'd enjoyed using the Kineses before. I moved long distance and the Kinesis was bulky and didn't make the cut for things to haul. Once I was settled I started looking to set up a proper office again, and that included a keyboard. But I didn't find one that was enough better than a laptop keyboard to get regular use.

Re: A beginner's guide to split keyboards

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Can you recommend one that is clearly better that ergodox in every manner?

Lots of options, but the one I use and would recommend is the Iris: https://keeb.io/products/iris-se-kit Advantages over the Ergodox: 1. No pointless layer of "inner" keys that you never use 2. The thumb keys are closer to the main keyboard, so more of them are in a natural reach, rather than being a big stretch (this is the biggest one in usage) 3. Uses all 1u keys, so greater keycap compatibility (any ortho kit wil…

> No pointless layer of "inner" keys that you never use

I use all the keys on my ergodox-ez, so this keyboard has not enough keys for me to switch to.

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