Sorry, but why should they? What makes OpenAI better at making Slack than....Slack? Sure, Slack can be improved, but why the fuck should that be done by OpenAI? Shouldn't OpenAI concentrate on...I don't know....AI?! And first try to break even on that promise and actually generate revenue on that shitty promise?
OpenAI should build Slack
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#252Sorry, but why should they? What makes OpenAI better at making Slack than....Slack? Sure, Slack can be improved, but why the fuck should that be done by OpenAI? Shouldn't OpenAI concentrate on...I don't know....AI?! And first try to break even on that promise and actually generate revenue on that shitty promise?
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#253Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist. For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space. Source: I use…
While the current incarnation of Google Chat has indeed been steadily improving, Google has a lot, and I mean a lot , to make up for: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-... (2021, as the URL says) And it's not just messaging. Google has a decades-long history of abandoning apps that don't make them billions, which means no-one with memory trusts them. Especially in their current "AI-everythin…
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Brand New? It's over two years old now. For a company that brags about its cloud infrastructure and developer tooling, I find it incredibly ironic that Gemini has worse integration with Google docs than ChatGPT and Claude.
Yes, for a company the size of Google, a two year old product is effectively brand new. It is not ironic whatsoever that much smaller startups in much more precarious positions relative to the incumbent move very quickly to integrate with the incumbent.
I mean I get your point.
But still, shouldn’t we hold the big companies accountable?
I don’t want to lower my expectations just because I need to understand that the company in charge is huge.
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I think I have this discussion on HN everytime Teams comes up but it really is a great piece of software for a typical office worker. File sharing is incredible. You get a SharePoint and collaborative editing in a seamless way. Video conf is great and work great with Teams compatible room booking system and room video material. The chat part barely matters. People don't use Teams to chat. It's a collaboration hub. Th…
File sharing using Scarepoint is incredible. Incredible bad, that is. Everything is stored in mssql server behind the scenes, in the most inefficient way you could imagine. Scarepoint is the opposite of seamless, number of wasted man-years on it must certainly be in the millions, if not billions. Its ”wiki” sucks. It’s bad software that not even ms themselves want to touch, that’s why many of their other server softw…
Are you thinking of the AllUserData table? :) Yeah, it appears pretty abhorrent if you’re coming from a DBA background.
Re: OpenAI should build Slack
#256Why keep relying on API services? If you'd like your own local AI integration with open providers like Rocket.Chat and Mattermost, check out txtchat (https://github.com/neuml/txtchat).
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While the current incarnation of Google Chat has indeed been steadily improving, Google has a lot, and I mean a lot , to make up for: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-... (2021, as the URL says) And it's not just messaging. Google has a decades-long history of abandoning apps that don't make them billions, which means no-one with memory trusts them. Especially in their current "AI-everythin…
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-... (2021, as the URL says) This article never fails to crack me up! Arstechnica.com at its best.
i think google meet duo is finally being deprecated in favor of another solution
https://support.google.com/meet/answer/15226472?hl=en
Google Duo was upgraded and rebranded to Google Meet in 2022. However, the legacy calling experience (previously known as Duo) was still available. Now, these legacy calls are being upgraded to Meet calls, which contain expanded features like cloud encryption, live captions, in-call chat, stackable effects, and more. To use the new Meet calling experience, update your app to the latest version. As users move over to Meet calling, some of the legacy calling features will no longer be available. In addition, any reference to what was formerly known as Duo will now show “legacy.” From September 2025, legacy calling will be replaced with Meet calling.
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Brand New? It's over two years old now. For a company that brags about its cloud infrastructure and developer tooling, I find it incredibly ironic that Gemini has worse integration with Google docs than ChatGPT and Claude.
Yes, for a company the size of Google, a two year old product is effectively brand new. It is not ironic whatsoever that much smaller startups in much more precarious positions relative to the incumbent move very quickly to integrate with the incumbent.
Google Wave was launched, marketed, and killed in 2 years
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, for a company the size of Google, a two year old product is effectively brand new. It is not ironic whatsoever that much smaller startups in much more precarious positions relative to the incumbent move very quickly to integrate with the incumbent.
I mean I get your point. But still, shouldn’t we hold the big companies accountable? I don’t want to lower my expectations just because I need to understand that the company in charge is huge.
Sure, we should demand good stuff from companies.
That's different than your original claim of not being able to understand why it's this way (and another commenter calling it ironic). Totally expected IMO.
It's very hard to do cross-cutting things in big companies. It just is!
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still no way to check your email from teams though.
Why would you want to do that? Outlook is perfectly fine, and on Windows it’s easy enough to toggle between the two windows.
because the whole range of the microsoft suite (word, excel, visio, rtc) is accessible from
teams.