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Re: GitHub is down again

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Damn, I was also trying to push and deploy a critical bug fix that was needed within minutes.

Well unfortunately, you have to wait for GitHub to get back online to push that critical bug fix. If that were me, I would find that unacceptable.

Self hosting would be a better alternative, as I said 5 years ago. [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867803

Re: GitHub is down again

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I don't know jack about shit here, but genuinely: why migrate a live production system piecewise? Wouldn't it be far more sane to start building a shadow copy on Azure and let that blow up in isolation while real users keep using the real service on """legacy""" systems that still work?

Because it's significantly harder to isolate problems and you'll end up in this loop * Deploy everything * It explodes * Rollback everything * Spend two weeks finding problem in one system and then fix it * Deploy everything * It explodes * Rollback everything * Spend two weeks finding a new problem that was created while you were fixing the last problem * Repeat ad nauseum Migrating iteratively gives you a foundatio…

So… create your shadow system piecewise? There is no reason to have "explode production" in your workflow, unless you are truly starved for resources.

Re: GitHub is down again

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What antitrust issue does my open source software have?

What does antitrust have to do with the GitHub services downtime?

The more stable/secure a monopoly is in its position the less incentive it has to deliver high quality services.

If a company can build a monopoly (or oligopoly) in multiple markets, it can then use these monopolies to build stability for them all. For example, Google uses ads on the Google Search homepage to build a browser near-monopoly and uses Chrome to push people to use Google Search homepage. Both markets have to be attacked simultaneously by competitors to have a fighting chance.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Take it away from Microsoft. Not sure how this isn't an antitrust issue anyway.

At its core antitrust cases are about monopolies and how companies use anti-competitive conduct to maintain their monopoly. Github isn't the only source control software in the market. Unless they're doing something obvious and nefarious, its doubtful the justice department will step in when you can simply choose one of many others like Bitbucket, Sourcetree, Gitlab, SVN, CVS, Fossil, DARCS, or Bazaar. There's just t…

Minimal changes have occurred to the concept of “antitrust” since its inception as a form of societal justice against corporations, at least per my understanding.

I doubt policymakers in the early 1900s could have predicted the impact of technology and globalization on the corporate landscape, especially vis a vis “vertical integration”.

Personally, I think vertical integration is a pretty big blind spot in laws and policies that are meant to ensure that consumers are not negatively impacted by anticompetitive corporate practices. Sure, “competition” may exist, but the market activity often shifts meaningfully in a direction that is harmful consumers once the biggest players swallow another piece of the supply chain (or product concept), and not just their competitors.

Re: GitHub is down again

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I know you are joking but I'm sure that there is at least one director or VP inside GitHub pushing a new salvation project that must use AI to solve all the problems, when actually the most likely reason is engineers are drawing in tech debt.

Upper management in Microsoft has been bragging about their high percentage of AI generated code lately - and in the meantime we've had several disastrous Windows 11 updates with the potential to brick your machine and a slew of outages at github. I'm sure it might be something else but it's clear part of their current technical approach is utterly broken.

Utterly broken - perhaps, but apparently that's not exclusive with being highly profitable, so why should they care?

Re: GitHub is down again

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I know you are joking but I'm sure that there is at least one director or VP inside GitHub pushing a new salvation project that must use AI to solve all the problems, when actually the most likely reason is engineers are drawing in tech debt.

Better to replace management by AI. Computers can produce spreadsheets even better and they can warm the air around you even faster.

Honestly AI management would probably be better. "You're a competent manager, you're not allowed to break or circumvent workers right laws, you must comply with our CSR and HR policies, provide realistic estimates and deliver stable and reliable products to our customers." Then just watch half the tech sector break down, due to a lack of resources, or watch as profit is just cut in half.
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