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Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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If you scroll a little further down, you'll see that it lists components of an office suite as: - a word processor - a spreadsheet application - presentation software This doesn't look like it has any of these

Have you considered that “office suite” has drifted in meaning since Microsoft Office was introduced and things like: - chat - video calls - notion Might now be more important to an office than word processing or presentation software?

For sure

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Real hackers don't necessarily care about open source software. Closed source offers more low hanging fruit attack vectors.

Hacker, as in capable… not as the media redefined term

Was referring to an actual hacker who does look for holes in systems not the 60s idealist version of a hacker as someone who plays nor the media evil shadowly character.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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I had a question since there's growing interest in open source adoption for digital sovereignty purposes in Europe; I produce open source software for civil servants as well (for mass appraisal/property tax valuation specifically), and I was wondering if you could offer any advice about how to best meet the needs of/approach European governments (both local and national) about open source collaboration? Do they prefe…

I think it definitely depends on the country, there isn’t a one-size fits all answer to this for the countries in the EU. Even in this example, the French are building this in-house, but the Germans are repackaging this into their suite. And the Netherlands is on their way to do the same. So the approach would be different depending on which country you approached. My advice to you would be to follow government event…

Cool. I'm already in touch with a handful of civil servants in both Germany and the Netherlands, so I'll do as you say and look for more government led initiatives, and I'll follow up with my existing contacts. Which countries do you think are the most interested in this sort of thing so far?

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Great to see this on HN. fyi, La Suite is an umbrella project built by DINUM in France that started several years ago, mainly to enable people in the public administration to use more independent tools. It's built in-house, often on top of other open source technologies. E.g.: Matrix powers chat and LiveKit powers Visio (which was recently featured on HN as well when they announced it's rolled out to replace Zoom / T…

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Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Lasuite Docs PM here. Awesome to see we’ve made it top the first page again! Thanks for the interest :) I’ve compiled a bunch of answers in an FAQ on this doc https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/docs/ed2e1dbf-07a2-43bb-ae1e-... Cheers!

Love the fact that you use USA date format, not rest-of-world.

Love the fact that your AI customer service bot takes a question and then asks for an email address for a reply.

Love your incoherently bolded statements: "The Docs app is a note taking and knowledge management software.

Love how the vast amount of emojis really clarify things and help the reader.

s/love/hate/g

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Google Docs is a document editor (opening/saving Microsoft office compatible documents, with layout, etc), not a wiki/markdown editor. The La Suite Docs seems a product more similar to Atlassian Confluence.

Work being done in offices is changing over time. I find myself writing less documents for printing and more for collaborating and sharing directly. Even though many formal processes still require printable PDFs, we are slowly migrating to something paperless, or at least not paper-centric.

Even when using google docs, I dropped the paper format, and at that point it's better to edit/read in a richer editor like Confluence which has better support for interactive widgets, expand zones, code blocks, etc. It's also been better at navigating a tree of documents.

Google docs is still great when you need to make something you mean to print, it just tends to not be that often anymore.

I even use markdown shortcuts to format in google docs nowadays.

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That is obviously not true. You don’t even define what a welfare state is or when a country stops being a welfare state.

Can you define it then? What point does it start and what point does it stop being a welfare state.

It is a very abstract term. It is like ”democracy”. Yes, you can clearly say that North Korea is not a democracy. But US? Well, depends on who you ask.

Same with welfare state. Which countries do you count as non-welfare states? And when do they stop being a welfare state? Let’s take Poland as an example. When do they stop being a welfare state? If they lower the unemployment payments, will they stop being a welfare state?

And at what timescale do you think Poland will stop existing because of demographics?

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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That is obviously not true. You don’t even define what a welfare state is or when a country stops being a welfare state.

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Let’s take Poland. They are a welfare state. They don’t have open borders for illegals. Not sure what you are talking about. Let me guess you are American who never set foot in Poland and just assume it has open borders?
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