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Post by Ajedi32 »

ls612 wrote: post #246
AngryData wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that is how it currently is in the US, but I don't believe it is universally true or that nothing can be done to change it if enough people resisted.

My statement has nothing to do with contemporary politics and is not unique in the slightest to the US. For an example you are likely sympathetic to, consider the experience of Pavel Durov since late 2024.

"Every law" seems like a huge exaggeration. Assuming for a moment we agree Pavel is a victim of selective prosecution, notice they're not charging him with a clear, straightforward crime like murder, they're charging him with things like[1] failing to prevent illicit activity on Telegram, and "provision of cryptology services [...] without a declaration of conformity". Those laws seem far more prone to abuse as a tool for selective prosecution than most others. (Some of the things he's charged with don't even sound to me like they should be illegal in the first place.)

[1]: https://x.com/fs0c131y/status/1828103712964817389

Re: A new bill in New York would require disclaimers on AI-generated news content

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Post by ls612 »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #251
ls612 wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My statement has nothing to do with contemporary politics and is not unique in the slightest to the US. For an example you are likely sympathetic to, consider the experience of Pavel Durov since late 2024.

"Every law" seems like a huge exaggeration. Assuming for a moment we agree Pavel is a victim of selective prosecution, notice they're not charging him with a clear, straightforward crime like murder, they're charging him with things like[1] failing to prevent illicit activity on Telegram, and "provision of cryptology services [...] without a declaration of conformity". Those laws seem far more prone to abuse as a too…

Every law in the sense of cumulatively, the ‘rule of law’ system has the same property of “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime” that Beria’s system did.

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

DrinkingRedStar wrote: post #183
datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it’s not a fair comparison, but I think it’s been shown that tobacco warnings are effective even though they’re so common to be “fatigued”.

I do believe this is an unfair comparison. With tobacco the warnings are always true, but with prop 65 the product might not contain any cancer causing ingredients, but the warning is there just in case. It's much easier to tell yourself prop 65 doesn't have to be avoided because "it's probably just there to cover their asses" wile tobacco products have real warnings that definitely mean danger (though there are peop…

Also even if there's a prop 65 warning because there are cancer-causing ingredients, those ingredients may not be user-accessible or may be in tiny enough quantities that they'd statistically never result in cancer even with lifetime use by every human on the planet. E.g. lead in a circuit board inside an IP-68 rated sealed device would require a prop 65 warning even though it won't pose any cancer risk to the user unless they grind up the device & ingest or inhale the lead.

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Post by cindyllm »

foxbarrington wrote: post #128
jfengel wrote: post #111

What I'd really like to see is a label on original reporting. Even beyond AI, the vast majority of news is re-packaging information you got from somewhere else. AI can replace the re-writers, but not the original journalists, people who spoke to primary sources (or who were themselves eyewitnesses). Any factual document should reference its sources. If not, it should be treated skeptically, regardless of whether AI o…

A common reaction I get to https://forty.news is that the stories “need sources” which I always find funny. I don’t hear the same demand of sources from every other news outlet (I find it extra weird because all FN’s stories are 40 years old, simple to verify, and can’t push an agenda the same way). Totally agree with you: all newspapers should cite sources. What’s silly to me is how selectively people care—big outle…

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