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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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I'm reminded of Satya's glee in 2003, at having rolled out this AI integration across-the-board, before Google (which then scrambled to get in the game):

"And I want people to know that we made them dance, and I think that'll be a great day"

Hmmm, the "moonwalk" is a dance too...

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

#253

This is absurd, the fact that Windows has 70% if global desktop operating system market share makes them their most important moat, why are they deliberately taking actions and steps to make it worse? They added ads, forced updates, mandatory Microsoft account activation, so much unwanted AI slop... Think about it, if it was another more competitive company, they would be charging for the AI service and the onboardin…

The problem is that we allowed them to control the PC OS market so tightly.

Had there been any sort of real competition, then they would have had to care about their users.

At this point I just hope that they don't manage to turn the ship before Linux has gotten a real foothold in the market.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Tesla is also collapsing.

Musk's net worth was $300Bn in November 2024 and he ended 2025 at $726Bn. ... where is this collapse?

It's in the actual currency. It's easy to have a large denomination of dollars if the currency is collapsing due to hyperinflation.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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The thing that bothers me the most about this is that I actually have faith in the people actually developing Windows. I'm not at all aurprised that they are rebelling against stupid non-features. But that rebelling doesn't amount to anything, since managers and decrees from the top funnel all effort into the most user-hostile results possible. If MS rehires their QA teams and listen to the people on the ground, I'd…

You say that but they rewrote the start menu and task bar from scratch. Something you see cried for over and over again by folks who think that rewriting is easy. The end result is a painful, inflexible, and overly opinionated piece of UI that is slowly re-learning lessons learned by it's fore barer and is likely to never be as capable of what it replaced. From beta people wanted to resize and reposition it and that…

I have faith that rewrite was done because some exec told them to do it, rather that out of a desire to make a better start menu. The result is shoddy work from someone who clearly didn't want to do it, and got told 'no' when they had ideas which would genuinely improve the experience.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

The pain of ripping this all out properly is likely too high. Ever since they got the delicious taste of white-labelling chromium instead of fixing ie, another way has been looking better and better: windows 13 or 14 will just be a linux distro

The difference is that Microsoft didn't receive any direct revenue off of IE and Google had a lot of levers to use (they weren't under antitrust scrutiny at the time) to continue to eat away at IE's market share. It was smart for MS to give up on maintaining their own browser and downright brilliant for them to use their competitor's own browser against them.

On the other hand, Windows Home and Windows Pro are only part of the bigger picture. Microsoft gets billions in revenue from Windows Enterprise seats and billions more from Windows Server, probably more enterprise revenue than Red Hat and Canonical combined does for their Linux offerings. They have zero reason to give up on Windows while the money keeps rolling in.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Well if its done in a dumb-as-a-fuck hostile style that whole world complaints for years , such effort and PM is utter failure and their CV should be tarnished with this for next 2 decades. And its up to us as a IT community to make it happen. They harmed massively their own company, and failed at the most core reason why they were hired - add long term value to the company. Its a bit the equivalent of architect buil…

Their shareholders did not want them to add long term value to the company. Their shareholders wanted AI.

Thinking hard about how CoPilot fits into the MS ecosystem (Power BI, SharePoint, Dynamics, Office entrenchment, etc), and how their consultant mills work, I’m convinced there’s a meaningful space for unnecessary, unpopular, or suboptimal LLM solutions that can still be wildly profitable for MS.

Like, just because the outcome sucks and the solutions are user-hostile, let’s not assume the decision makers are dummies. I see profit motives as the likely delta between their decisions and our userland expectations.

Let me run the MS LLM department and I could easily explain to the board why we’re about to see a big upsurge Azure, office 365 integrated, and MCP-based solution spending… hint: it’s because the machine god will tell the consultants AND the customer those solutions are what’s SmartGood. We’ll sell ‘em a box that tells ‘em what to buy (lul, subscribe to!), the profitability part kinda writes itself.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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As someone that uses Linux distros since 1995, I have had lots of joy getting it to work on various kinds of hardware, during weekends and long nights.

Ah the good old days. Investing an entire weekend to make your pci soundblaster card work. Nowadays you just install an iso from a thumb drive, it takes 30 mins and everything works out of the box. So boring!

Is there a consensus on the best ‘boring’ distro nowadays?

It’s been ~15 years since I last installed linux (Linux Mint on a netbook that couldn’t run the pre-installed Win7), and am now curious about repurposing a gaming PC for software development.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Too late, idiots. Just as Windows 10 was being retired, you ran the craziest anti-marketing campaign I've ever seen and successfully coaxed me into switching my daily driver to Linux. Until this year, I've been using windows my ENTIRE life.

I have a feeling it's too little, too late, even if it's completely true and sincere, which I doubt at this point.

I can't help but wonder if they're in the process of losing an entire generation of tech enthusiasts to Linux and maybe MacOS. And the rest of the world tends to slowly follow the tech enthusiasts.

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