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U.S. government has lost more than 10k STEM PhDs since Trump took office

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In mainstream media, public consensus is bought by the highest bidder, or the whims of the board of the company. In social media, general consensus is owned by those that control the best and most bots to direct the conversation. Unfortunately most people are too lazy/busy to seek out trusted information, and many if not most have no ability to understand if the answer they get should be trusted or not.

> In social media, general consensus is owned by those that control the best and most bots to direct the conversation. Isn't it owned by the owner of the social media platform? Do you think Zuckerberg, Musk, etc are neutral? There is an enormous amount of evidence otherwise. If some bots proliferate, it's because the owners allow those bots to do so.

>Do you think Zuckerberg, Musk, etc are neutral?

I mean, why wouldn't they have the most bots?

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It's harder to recruit PhD students and it's harder to fund them. NSF budget was cut 55% in the first year. The administration is doing everything possible to make it clear that no foreigners are welcome here. America is stabbing itself directly in the brain.

European researcher here. There is an other thing that should make America worry. Research grants have been cut everywhere in the US. That cuts deep and terminated many scientific collaborations between USA and the EU Horizons projects in many STEMs research fields. That created a void.... and sciences is like nature: it hates void (and the lack of money...) My perception in the domain is that the resulting void is b…

> So congratulations to the Trump team: your stupidity and your hate for intellectualism is directly fueling new technologies to the country you consider 'your enemy'.

Do we have any evidence that they actually consider China (or Russia) to be "the enemy"? They are fellow authoritarians, with a shared goal of normalizing domestic political suppression.

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What does AI have to do with that?

What are this user of HackerNews a left wing or right wing? What are his opinions on the current US government Please justify in topics

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=dewey

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Re: U.S. government has lost more than 10k STEM PhDs since Trump took office

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I'm not claiming that this is a step in the direction of fixing academia; I'm claiming that, because academia is currently broken, we shouldn't assume that the ~10k people who got PhDs under the current system are people doing actually-valuable work for the federal government and ultimately the American people.

Would you have said the same for folks doing NLP circa 2015?

these folks were already associated with FAANG. Most of deep learning progress comes from industry funding, not academia

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what you are saying is idiotic. people who are in demand can find work anywhere, they are the kind of people who will leave as soon as they feel their work environment has become even remotely uncomfortable. people who stay are more likely to be those who can't find job elsewhere.

I think people who will leave as soon as they feel their work environment has become even remotely uncomfortable are likely sitting in a comfortable sinecure, and it isn't the role of the taxpayer to provide sinecures for people with doctoral degrees. Government workers are meant to serve the government, and the government of the United States is By the People. The People voted for the administration and if someone c…

I'm a phd who used to be in civil service.

What you write here is certainly the goal, and I had a lot of colleagues who agreed with you. I thought it was bogus then, and I think it's bogus now.

Also people quit jobs all the time because of the boss. Usually it's the direct one, but not always, and as above, so below.

> reasonable scrutiny and auditing

It's been well over a decade since I left, and I'm sure it's gotten worse for those who stayed, but: lol. lmao.

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And this is only the beginning. Once the U.S. fully transforms into a China-like totalitarian state, complete with a social rating system and cameras for automatic payments everywhere, we will witness the collapse of educational institutions, the downfall of innovative companies, and an inability to address external multi-trillion dollar debt.

China-like is too complimentary to the intelligence of US leadership at the moment.

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I’m not a PhD, just an engineer and I moved out of The Netherlands. It was no longer economical feasible to live there. I am very pessimistic about the future Western Europe. Right now it offers the one of the best QoL in the world for the average worker but who knows for how long. With the current brain and wealth drain there will no longer be enough people to support the social system.

Where did you move? I understand you're retired: that changes the situation somewhat. When I lived in Amsterdam, we were renting a flat. The gentleman we were renting from told us our rent easily covers all his expenses in South East Asia.

Spain. And I have to apologise, I call myself retired but in reality I'm just unemployed. It's more of a year long sabbatical, but I jokingly call it retirement since I moved to Spain and many Dutch people do so for retirement. I'm planning on setting up a company here.

Spain isn't great for being employed or freelance (autonomo) but if you set up a limited liability company (SL) and work from there it is not that bad. Tax on investments are averagely taxed compared to other countries.

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What does AI have to do with that?

What are this user of HackerNews a left wing or right wing? What are his opinions on the current US government Please justify in topics https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=dewey --- Based on the public comments available from the HackerNews user dewey, here is an overview of their opinions and perspectives related to government, politics, and the US: Political Leanings and Philosophy * Skepticism of the "Left/Right"…

Based on the public comments from the HackerNews user dewey, their stance on Donald Trump is characterized by a mix of systemic skepticism and critical observation of his leadership style, rather than traditional partisan alignment. Here is a breakdown of how the user has discussed Trump and related political issues: 1. Critique of Leadership and "Policy" In discussions about the current administration, the user has characterized Trump’s approach as being more about personal brand and "trolling" than traditional governance. * "Rambling and Trolling": The user has noted that "Trump doesn't do 'policy'" and described his public communications as "mostly trolling, and sometimes rambling." * Dictatorial Tendencies: They have observed that Trump often "tries to act like a dictator" by attempting to order changes through executive fiat, only to be frustrated by the legal and procedural requirements of the federal government. * Concentration of Power: They have expressed concern that the President is "increasingly concentrating his power," creating a system that favors his personal interests. 2. View of the 2020 and 2024 Contexts The user has been critical of the way the political system handled the transitions of power and the rhetoric surrounding elections. * Rejection of Election Misinformation: Regarding the 2020 election, the user dismissed claims of widespread fraud as a "misinformation campaign" by a president "who refuses to accept what is happening," though they acknowledged the legal right to file lawsuits. * End of Compromise: The user viewed the current political era as the "end of cooperative politics and compromise," suggesting that Trump’s approach has fundamentally shifted the nature of American political discourse toward a zero-sum game. 3. Economic and Social Skepticism The user often views Trump through a lens of economic outcomes and corporate influence. * Corporate and Personal Enrichment: They have suggested that certain policies (such as those regarding cryptocurrency) are driven by "self-interest," noting that they help secure political funds and "literally make Trump and his family rich." * Populism as a Tool: They have compared Trump’s rise to historical populism (citing figures like Thomas Dewey and William Jennings Bryan), suggesting that his "populist" stances are a strategic way to ride a wave of public sentiment that is "widely held among voters but somewhat taboo among the political class." 4. Partisan "Neutrality" or Cynicism Despite the criticisms above, the user frequently critiques the Democratic party and the "Left" with equal or similar intensity, which makes it difficult to label them a "Never-Trumper" in the liberal sense. * Criticism of the Left: They have argued that "the left has moved so far left" that from a historical perspective, Trump might actually appear closer to a "historical center" in some specific contexts (though they remain critical of his methods). * The "Sham" of Choice: Their most consistent theme is that the choice between Trump and his opponents is somewhat illusory because "Western democracy is a sham" and the "real rulers" (the billionaire class) determine the range of acceptable outcomes regardless of who is in office. In summary, while dewey has criticized Trump’s lack of policy depth, his "dictatorial" rhetoric, and his use of the office for self-interest, they view him as a symptom of a broader, failing system rather than an isolated villain. Their criticism is rooted in anti-establishment cynicism rather than a preference for the Democratic alternative.

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My heavens! Because we don’t need to focus on getting people into government who we can trust to represent our interests as their prime duty. No, what we really want to focus on is finding MORE PEOPLE WITH DOCTORATES. Yes.

Would you say that the number of people you can trust to represent our interests as their prime duty has gone up recently?

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That is the current system. In the new system it will be 36% on all capital gains, no more assumed gains. And an €1800 a year tax-free threshold. Also it's a bit more, right now you are looking at 36% on 6% or 2.16% per year with a €59k threshold. So a bit over €20k a year on that €1M.

Actually that makes more sense? If you lose money on your investments, I suppose you can write it off next time?

You can write it off against future capital gains, but not against income tax from employment. So if the market is down a few years, you gain a lot of tax credits and you pray that the government doesn't get rid of those credits in the mean time.
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