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Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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You can bring your own modem. You just have to register it.

But how? There is no information about it, which means, it can't be done without any form of reverse engineering

At least for Germany, you can buy the Digitalisierungsbox Glasfasermodem or any other modem. You just have to register it with the DTAG via their hotline.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Not very familiar with DOCSIS and cable; the story I'm getting from my nearest friendly LLM is that while you could bring your cable modem, it'd have to be a pre-approved model, and that the firmware and configuration would be under ISP control, unlike with DSL modems. Is that wrong?

In Germany it's wrong.

How does it work in Germany?

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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We call it the email mafia. To send emails we need to pay for a mail service. Or get ads of course Gmail is part of the ring. Like most things it start with good intentions, to fight spam. As if it even worked, I guess we would get far more without they will say.

It's one of the downsides of decentralized networks. Trust is built or pay-your-way-into'd.

This has nothing to do with decentralized networks. It's simple incompetence.

If you haven't received any mail from a mail system before (or in a long time) and then it sends you one message, it probably isn't spam, because spammers are typically going to send you a large number of messages. You also typically want to let the first few messages through so the recipient can see them and then classify it as spam or not, so that you get some data on how to treat future messages from that sender.

This is the same thing a centralized system should be doing with individual users. You impose some reputation on accounts (e.g. by sender/registration IP address) and then if that address starts spamming people it gets blocked, and otherwise it doesn't.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Commenting from my alt to avoid doxxing myself. Have spent over a decade in various 'large' streaming video companies, the ones you absolutely know about today. DTAG is bar none the worst ISP to work with. Everything they do is politics, they may decide to 'forget' to increase the bandwidth on a PNI until you take a meeting with german regulators. Almost every other ISP views PNI as the best way to uphold customer sa…

>I don't think Germans realize just how much DTAG is holding the experience back for end users

The ones not on HN probably just notice that their internet is getting slow after 5 p.m

Trust me, I know how much they suck and I still had to enter a 2-year contract just to get fiber optics in my house.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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The only ISP I have access to is Deutsche Telekom and I often have problems with websites loading slowly. A few more years before other ISPs can provide internet in my new development area. I can't understand, why they are allowed to have a monopoly in some areas.

>why they are allowed to have a monopoly in some areas

because no other ISP can enter for a reasonable price. Germany should have made the infrastructure open-access for all providers, just like they did in Switzerland.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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I mean, yes? But that's by sending a letter, or a fax. Email is not part of this...

This is one of the things that E-Delivery (something which Europe is now implementing[1,2,3]) is going to fix. It's sort of like email, but based on the XML stack (SOAP / WSDL / XML Crypto / XML Sig), with proper citizen authentication and cryptographically-signed proof of sending and delivery. [1] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/DI... [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=…

How ugly it is...

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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If I recall, for something like GPON or XGS-PON, you end up having to clone the various attributes of the original for it to work properly. This typically includes serial number, hardware id, firmware identifiers, etc.

Question out of curiosity. I once swapped a TPLink media converter between two homes, both using the same ISP, to debug internet issues and to see if that would improve the situation. Did I do something incredibly illegal? And did my ISP get confused seeing my media converter on the other side of town?

When I was a kid I used to pack my house's cable modem in a backback and bring it to my friend's house a couple miles away when I'd visit to play Xbox Live. My dad had a back-up dial-up connection for emails and mom didn't use the internet very much so usually wouldn't mind unless he needed to work. I remember this working at greater distances in other places occasionally too.

Earlier, in the dial-up era, my dad didn't feel like paying for internet at home and work, so after school I would call his office and ask his secretary if he had left for his evening meetings yet. If so, she'd disconnect his dial-up connection and I'd get a couple hours to myself after school.

We didn't have two phone lines at home so I'm not sure what happened if he needed it unexpectedly. I think he also had a by-the-minute service as a backup or maybe his partner in the office had a separate plan? This was all done under agreed rules I only vaguely remember so must not have been a frequent problem.

Always funny to think back to that era when internet wasn't assumed to be a 24/7 thing and losing internet for a day wasn't the end of the world...

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Telekom is a bunch of strange folks. I lately was not able to send mails, from my private mail servrr to my fathers telekom mail. After investigation I found out my server got blocked. After a decade of working. I mailed them, and they told me to register my mailserver with them. I shall tell them what mails I will send from there and about what content. I couldn’t believe my eyes. Sure, thats how mail was supposed t…

but the fun thing about them is, they allow you to impersonate any mail address you want with their smtp server. Aka, when you are a customer of them you get a @t-online.de address and login data for their smtp server. You can just login into that server and set the From: Header to anything, they don't check.

Isn't that fairly common? You could then put in some other address, but you could do the same thing by setting up your own mail server, and in the former case you're not even really anonymous because the headers are going to show it was sent through their mail server and their mail server's logs will show which account was used to send the message.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Does anyone self host email anymore successfully? I'm honestly asking. I would like to but it seems like a full time job trying to keep it running. Are there halfway solutions where maybe you own the service and domain and it runs somewhere trusted?

I self host email and have done so, with the same domain, since ~2000. My IP has not changed since 2010 and I have perfect dkim/dmarc/rdns and whatever duct taped bullshit de jure is currently being practiced. Everything generally works.

± same here

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Microsoft has a similar policy on their consumer domains though. If they have not received mail from you for a month or so you are insta blocked. It's infuriating for personal mail server owners.

Microsoft and google seems hellbent on destroying classical email, by doing this crap. Their interoperability is also pretty bad.

Yes. It's the last phase of embrace, extend, extinguish. Typical big tech move.
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