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Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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A week ago. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/cloudflare-may-p...

How much of internet can Cloudflare turn off in italy? They picked a fight with the cloud gorilla.

When Spain blocks CF (it does this regularly), it breaks all CF sites. Of course, the actual problem here is organised crime. Spain and Italy do this because the mafia owns them.

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Take heed, Americaneez -- and prepare, because this may be in your future sooner than prediction markets would have you believe [1]. LoRa mesh networking seems like the runner-up, but vague reports indicate (Meshtastic) doesn't handle crowds well. I think Bitchat can use Meshtastic, so a LoRa radio paired with a phone could be a base for not just texting individuals, but community messaging. 1: https://polymarket.com…

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

PolyMarket repeatedly paid out bets on Trump creating peace between Palestine and Israel even though he hasn't.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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If they're in the country illegally are they citizens?

That's an easy one. They're people, and still have rights. That's non-negotiable.

If you're in a country illegally, yes you do have rights but the right to stay is not one of them.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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If you haven't been paying attention to American politics, there are currently widespread protests due to a woman being shot by ICE last week. It looks like the current administration may be seeking violent unrest in the hopes of delaying elections.

But if there is a civil war, what were you going to be able to do with the USD anyway?

Exchange it for something else before the war started?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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They are human, that's all you need to know.

No sane country recognizes all the same rights and privileges of a citizen in a non-citizen.

Be specific. Which rights?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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post #222

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They are human, that's all you need to know.

No sane country recognizes all the same rights and privileges of a citizen in a non-citizen.

All, no. But many, yeah. The Constitution and many of it's Amendments call out people or persons. The 14th Amendment even specifies what a citizen is, and in the next breath says persons cannot be denied due process by the States, not citizens.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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This should be a lesson for all of us. We should start building and maintaining lightweight mesh networks, just in case. We shouldn't take the world of cooperating ISPs and Meta and Cloudflare and Google and AWS for granted.

Nobody cares until is too late. And it is also very hard to get it right, given most p2ps eventually become centralized, or depend on a centralized mesh of hosts. Otherwise I totally agree with the statement, not sure whether is practically possible.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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This should be a lesson for all of us. We should start building and maintaining lightweight mesh networks, just in case. We shouldn't take the world of cooperating ISPs and Meta and Cloudflare and Google and AWS for granted.

Is that the right threat model, though? Governments usually switch off the internet when they have a risk of being overthrown. Thats' why it's happening in Iran. They want to disrupt the co-ordination of a coup, and their opponents only need to win in the short term after which it doesn't matter. In the US, the threat is censorship and tracking- suppression over the long term. Mesh networks are not great for that,bec…

There is concern that the US may also go from chronic concerns to acute ones. Opponents of the government accuse it of serious crimes, and are already perceiving violence used to suppress dissent. The administration is not popular and may lose a lot of power in the upcoming election.

It's hard to imagine that shutting down the entire Internet would be taken well even by their supporters, but the point of the exercise is to prepare for the unimaginable.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Mobile phones with "Mesh networking" built-in have now started to appear in the market. E.g Tecno Spark Go 3 - https://www.tecno-mobile.com/phones/product-detail/product/s... - recently launched in India has a feature called Freelink 2 that claims to connect with other Tecno phones to provide "connectivity" without wifi or cellular network up to a range of 1.5 kms. More here: https://www.intelregion.com/tech/how-to-use-your-techno-phon... .

(Personally, I don't think any government is going to allow this.)

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