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SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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ptorrone wrote: post #71
Y_Y wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you also been embargoed from buying shift keys?

speech to text, with a newborn, replying to these and feeding her. i cannot purchase shift keys if they are on sparkfun, yes.

Adafruit is maybe an all time amazing success story built on giving more of a shit than anyone else. There is a direct through line from reading MAKE in high school through programming the 8 LED POV thing through the rest of my career. Limor doesn't answer a forum question on a Sunday morning in like 2008 and I don't make my mortgage payment this month and my son gets store brand formula. I wish you every success professionally and in this new chapter with your tiny miracle, and I hope for an amicable resolution to this whole Sparkfun thing.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by rincebrain »

RobotToaster wrote: post #159
vegadw wrote: post #130

I'm still trying to put all the pieces together, but https://digipres.club/@discatte/115588660312186707 sure paints Adafruit as the bad party here, though I'm open to information which shows otherwise to understand better.

This adds some more context I guess https://chaos.social/@North/115605819126197877 Honestly the whole thing seems like everyone overreacting on both sides. Accusing someone is "doxing" because they used your first name?

I don't have a bone in this race, but if someone has deliberately hidden their identity online, knowingly disclosing that is malicious, regardless of any other morality involved.

Consider people who have their public persona very deliberately obfuscated, like Banksy, or Chuck Tingle - it's very intentional that both of them do not disclose that, and if you found out either of their legal names, and disclosed it publicly, it would be with deliberate intent to subvert them.

Or consider if someone posted online they had a beer, and they lived somewhere that considered that an egregious crime even if they did it somewhere that it was legal. If you deliberately released proof that the person posting "I had a beer" was this person, it would have malicious intent, regardless of how you feel about the morality of beer.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by mosura »

torginus wrote: post #100
skybrian wrote: post #45

I don’t know what’s going on, but I checked what Teensy is up to these days and it seems that last March they decided to outsource manufacturing and direct sales to SparkFun: https://forum.pjrc.com/index.php?threads/sparkfun-to-manufac...

Drama aside, why would someone prefer Adafruit or Sparkfun products over much cheaper whitelabel alternatives from China? A lot of those come with very good support and communities as well.

Olimex are a better middle ground than sparkfun or adafruit for the things they cover.

In truth people will spend a lot of money paying other people to shop on Aliexpress for them so they can maintain the illusion they are above all that.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by relaxing »

robotfelix wrote: post #177
b112 wrote: post #145

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Commas are akin to thing(1|2|3) sometimes. So it's offensive comments, offensive insults, offensive jokes, etc, as I read it, with ; breaking the association.

You're absolutely correct and it's me who has mis-read that part. The point of the oddly relaxed wording on sexual images and behaviour still stands though!

Offensive sexual images and behavior would fall under the first clause.

Then you’re left with the “my tasteful nudes aren’t offensive” defense to which the response is “but they are off topic”.

Presumably that means your biometric sensing vibrator hacking tutorial is still legal.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by Gracana »

wrigby wrote: post #247
Dangeranger wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See additional context for the accusation(s) here[0]. [0] https://forum.pjrc.com/index.php?threads/open-source-teensy-...

The fact that the Adafruit team continued that thread unabashedly after Paul Stoffregen's first reply is an awful look in my opinion. Doesn't seem like anyone here is behaving like adults. Edit: I should clarify - Paul seems very much like a mature adult in all of this.

Wow, and it gets worse from there. I think Paul is smart to let Phil drag him on his own forum rather than let him go blow up on social media for getting banned.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

burnte wrote: post #125
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #53

Wait, does this mean that all adafruit items for sale on sparkfun.com are going to be on a clearance sale?

"Existing inventory will be sold through while supplies last. Once inventory is exhausted, no additional units will be restocked. We have put the remaining stock on sale." https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/01/12/discontinuing-the-teens...

That's the opposite, but also cool.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by hamburglar »

ptorrone wrote: post #248
hamburglar wrote: post #235

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Ah, that is pretty illuminating. Insert “adafruit employee / husband of CEO overreacts to internet squabbles and gets a little shrieky because he’s sleep deprived” in there somewhere. This reminds me of the olden days of small messageboard drama. It’s a shame to see it affect a business relationship between two good companies. Maybe they’ll make up after it all cools off.

sparkfun will continue to use limor’s open source code, libraries, and designs. that is how open source works, and we are fine with that, and that is awesome! what is not speculation is - paul (teensy creator) told us directly that sparkfun’s decision to block us from purchasing teensy was final. that was not a heat of the moment thing, and it was not handled through normal purchasing channels. i do not even purchase…

> the termination letter was addressed broadly to “adafruit leadership,” not to any specific operational contact. that alone tells you this was not a routine business dispute

That really doesn’t tell me anything. I would like to humbly suggest you’re very close to this issue, in an already stressful personal situation, and you’re reading things between the lines kind of aggressively and overreacting.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, and I’m not saying whatever others did is ok, but I am saying that you aren’t improving anything by being here trying to litigate your case. I don’t think anyone who puts any thought into this can legitimately accuse you of anything except getting a little too worked up about it.

Respectfully, go take care of your family.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by aaronblohowiak »

mschuster91 wrote: post #82
aaronblohowiak wrote: post #75

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What’s the deal with 5v, 3.3v and 24v “standards” for sensors? It seems like there are really three different markets and it sucks because crossing “lanes” is really annoying. I like how you all made the qwik connectors “just work”, but now that I’m trying more industrial stuff I’m having a hard time figuring out how to get my 24v world to play nicely with the 3.3v world but of course my 24v world only wants to do SP…

> What’s the deal with 5v, 3.3v and 24v “standards” for sensors? Historical garbage and different manufacturing technologies. Be happy if you can get away with only 5V and 3V3 rails in your project. 24V is usually to interface with industrial sensors. And sometimes you see 12V as well, for stuff that's RS232 based. And on top of that you got a fifth standard, 4..20 mA current loops. That one is used for long range tr…

Ah yes, I was wondering why my ClearCore supported that, seemed oddly specific!

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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notaustinpowers wrote: post #150
vegadw wrote: post #130

I'm still trying to put all the pieces together, but https://digipres.club/@discatte/115588660312186707 sure paints Adafruit as the bad party here, though I'm open to information which shows otherwise to understand better.

This whole thing just seems like two terrible people being terrible to each other and both vying for sympathy to be the less terrible person in this.

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by account42 »

nikdoof wrote: post #217
hamburglar wrote: post #206

As an uninformed observer, here is a possible sequence of events that sounds somewhat plausible based on what we know so far: * sparkfun employee engages in some shitty behavior (maybe harassment, maybe photoshops) toward adafruit CEO * adafruit engages sparkfun to ask them to put a stop to it * employee leaves sparkfun * employee continues shitty behavior * adafruit continues to bug sparkfun about behavior * sparkfu…

Honestly, if I received an email like this from the MD of a customer, I'd probably want to wash my hands of them as well https://gist.github.com/NPoole/df0ec196ac1db7e6eecfd2496b9b4...

Are these all teenagers?
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