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That is not XFCE itself, that is up to your theme. I'm on the Dracula theme and have about 16 pixels.
Are there any themes that allow changing window border size, title bar size, scrollbar width etc, like win 9x?
1. as root, edit /etc/environment and add: GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
2. in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css add: .scrollbar.vertical slider, scrollbar.vertical slider {min-width: 10px;}
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yeah, i have a couple older machines and tried xfce and it wasn't really worth it memory wise, sure xfce is probably lighter but it's easily less than 100 meg difference
Ok, but did you also run it for a while and compare how snappy or laggy the different DEs are? Because with xfc my old T440s Thinkpad from 2013 is still perfectly fine for browsing the web, or watching movies on the HD projector, without sacrificing too many modern interface conveniences. I can't say the same for Gnome or KDE, and that's no slight against either (I happily use the latter on my more recent work laptop…
Currently gnome-shell is taking 135MB of ram, with other gdm/gnome related background services ranging in 700KB-3.2MB each to like 20MB together.
And it's as snappy as my sway config I log into depending on the needs.
I just spammed virtual desktop changes, opening Files, browsing, and it's as snappy as it is in sway.
I think gnome is getting a lot of unfair performance criticism online as it looks like something that would be slow. Maybe it was slow back in the starting gnome3 days. Maybe there are some heavy differences in how distros package it? (arch btw)
... though I will say that from my experience it's the KDE that's the slow one. I don't have it installed currently on this machine but had in the past and have it on my steam deck(which is stronger then this laptop). It feels sluggish and I have this bouncing cursor wait animation in my head right now just thinking about it.
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How high? What kind of problems? I very recently upgraded from a dual fullhd to a dual 4k setup and I was genuinely surprised how little problems I had setting everything up to the high DPI displays. I am genuinely interested in hearing what pitfalls might still await me.
I've been running 2× 4k 27" monitors for about a year on Xfce. I set it to 144 ppi and nothing feels weird to me, though I run a custom theme.
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yeah, i have a couple older machines and tried xfce and it wasn't really worth it memory wise, sure xfce is probably lighter but it's easily less than 100 meg difference
Ok, but did you also run it for a while and compare how snappy or laggy the different DEs are? Because with xfc my old T440s Thinkpad from 2013 is still perfectly fine for browsing the web, or watching movies on the HD projector, without sacrificing too many modern interface conveniences. I can't say the same for Gnome or KDE, and that's no slight against either (I happily use the latter on my more recent work laptop…
tbh i kinda miss the 6hr battery life
xfce and gnome are by far my most used desktops and i probably would put effort into using xfce more if it supported wayland etc but i guess i like to tinker with newer stuff
to me the only reason to use xfce would be if i wanted to use a lightweight desktop app on a borderline useless computer, cause once you start trying to load websites you're going to blow through so much memory that desktop environments are irrelevant