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Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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Don't fall into the "Look ma, no hands" hype. Antirez + LLM + CFO = Billion Dollar Redis company, quite plausibly. /However/ ... As for the delta provided by an LLM to Antirez, outside of Redis (and outside of any problem space he is already intimately familiar with), an Apples to Apples comparison would be he trying this on an equally complex codebase he has no idea about. I'll bet... what Antirez can do with Redis…

Yes most c-level executives (who often have to report to a board) have tendencies to predict the future after using claude code. It didn't happen in 2025 yet they still insist. While their senior engineers are still working at the production code.

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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By their promises it should get so good that basically you do not need to learn it. So it is reasonable to wait until that point.

If you listen to promises like that you're going get burned. One of the key skills needed in working with LLMs is learning to ignore the hype and marketing and figure out what these things are actually capable of, as opposed to LinkedIn bluster and claims from CEOs who's net worth are tied to investor sentiment in their companies. If someone spends more time talking about "AGI" then what they're actually building, fi…

>One of the key skills needed in working with LLMs is learning to ignore the hype and marketing and figure out what these things are actually capable of

This is precisely what led me to realize that while they have some use for code review and analyzing docs, for coding purposes they are fairly useless.

The hypesters responses' to this assertion exclusively into 5 categories. Ive never heard a 6th.

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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This is making me sad. The people that are going to lose their jobs will be literally weaponized against minorities by the crooked politicians that are doing their thing right now, it's going to be a disaster I can tell. I just wish I could go back in time. I don't want to live in this timeline anymore. I lost my passion job before anything of it even happened. On the paper.

Industries have come and gone for centuries and it doesn't always go horribly wrong.

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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How would we measure the effects of AI coding tool taking over manual coding ? Would we see an increase in the number of GitHub projects ? In the number of stars (given the ai is so good) ? In the number of start up ipos (surely if all your engineers are 1000x engineers thanks to Claude code, we'll have plenty of googles and Amazons to invest in) ? In the price of software (if I can just vibe code everything, than a…

> How would we measure the effects of AI coding tool taking over manual coding ?

Instead of asking "where are the AI-generated projects" we could ask about the easier problem of "where are the AI-generated ports". Why is it still hard to take an existing fully concrete specification, and an existing test suite, and dump out a working feature-complete port of huge, old, and popular projects? Lots of stuff like this will even be in the training set, so the fact that this isn't easy yet must mean something.

According to claude, wordpress is still 43% of all the websites on the internet and PHP has been despised by many people for many years and many reasons. Why no python or ruby portage? Harder but similar, throw in drupal, mediawiki, and wonder when can we automatically port the linux kernel to rust, etc.

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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How would we measure the effects of AI coding tool taking over manual coding ? Would we see an increase in the number of GitHub projects ? In the number of stars (given the ai is so good) ? In the number of start up ipos (surely if all your engineers are 1000x engineers thanks to Claude code, we'll have plenty of googles and Amazons to invest in) ? In the price of software (if I can just vibe code everything, than a…

> How would we measure the effects of AI coding tool taking over manual coding ? Instead of asking "where are the AI-generated projects" we could ask about the easier problem of "where are the AI-generated ports". Why is it still hard to take an existing fully concrete specification, and an existing test suite, and dump out a working feature-complete port of huge, old, and popular projects? Lots of stuff like this wi…

> Why is it still hard to take an existing fully concrete specification, and an existing test suite, and dump out a working feature-complete port of huge, old, and popular projects? Lots of stuff like this will even be in the training

We have a smaller version of that ability already:

- https://simonwillison.net/2025/Dec/15/porting-justhtml/

See also https://www.dbreunig.com/2026/01/08/a-software-library-with-...

I need to write these up properly, but I pulled a similar trick with an existing JavaScript test suite for https://github.com/simonw/micro-javascript and the official WebAssembly test suite for https://github.com/simonw/pwasm

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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What I don't understand about this whole "get on board the AI train or get left behind" narrative, what advantage does an early adopter have for AI tools? The way I see it, I can just start using AI once they get good enough for my type of work. Until then I'm continuing to learn instead of letting my brain atrophy.

> What I don't understand about this whole "get on board the AI train or get left behind" narrative, what advantage does an early adopter have for AI tools? The ones pushing this narrative have either the following: * Invested in AI companies (which they will never disclose until they IPO / acquired) * Employees at AI companies that have stock options which they are effectively paid boosters around AGI nonsense. * Mi…

Comparing crypto and web3 scam with AI advancements is disingenuous at its best. I am a long time C and C++ systems programming engineer oriented at (sometimes novel) algorithmic design and high-performance large-scale systems operating at the scale of internet. I am specializing in low-level details that generally very small amount of engineers around the globe are familiar with. We can talk at the level of CPU microarchitectural details or memory bank conflicts or OS internals, and all the way up to the line of code we are writing. AI is the most transformative technology ever designed. I'd go that far and say that not even industrial revolution is going to be comparable to it. I have no stakes in AI.

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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By their promises it should get so good that basically you do not need to learn it. So it is reasonable to wait until that point.

this is a straw man, nobody serious is promising that. it is a skill like any other that requires learning

> nobody serious is promising that

There is a staggering number of unserious folks in the ears of people with corporate purchasing power.

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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What I don't understand about this whole "get on board the AI train or get left behind" narrative, what advantage does an early adopter have for AI tools? The way I see it, I can just start using AI once they get good enough for my type of work. Until then I'm continuing to learn instead of letting my brain atrophy.

This is a pretty common position: "I don't worry about getting left behind - it will only take a few weeks to catch up again". I don't think that's true. I'm really good at getting great results out of coding agents and LLMs. I've also been using LLMs for code on an almost daily basis since ChatGPT's release on November 30th 2022. That's more than three years ago now. Meanwhile I see a constant flow of complaints fro…

Why can't both be true at the same time? Maybe their problems are more complex than yours. Why do you assume it's a skill issue and ignore the contextual variables?

Re: Don't fall into the anti-AI hype

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These personal blogs are starting to feel like Linkdin Lunatic posts, kinda similar. to the optimised floor sweeping blog, “I am excited to provide shareholder value, at minimum wage”

What does it tell you that programmers with the credibility of antirez - and who do not have an AI product to sell you - are writing things like this even when they know a lot of people aren't going to like reading them?

That is an argument to authority. There is a large enough segment of folks who like to be confirmed in either direction. Doesn't make the argument itself correct or incorrect. Time will tell though.
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