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Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by haspok »

Fischgericht wrote: post #206

I can confirm all of the findings. My first car I got in Germany was a C15. I used it to transport server racks, but also had a mattress in the back and had my first sex on it. On muddy festivals where others cars got stuck, I was able to get out easily. Repairs were dirt cheap. It also had a tow bar, and was able to pull a 1.5 metric ton trailer to get equipment to a computer party. And I still was able to do 160 km…

My first car was a rusty 20 year old Renault 5, in which I barely fit myself, so no sex in the car for me.

(But my grandma had a flat that she did not live in during the summer months... hmm... sweet memories... excuse me, what were we talking about again?)

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by haunter »

>prove that men who buy SUVs and Pick-Ups are, with very few exceptions, compensating for something ;)

What does that mean? The thread just repeating this compensating thing but not sure what does it try to say really.

Also most women I know drive SUVs or family vans not compact cars. Are they compensating for something?

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by conductr »

Fiveplus wrote: post #12

The C15 represents a time when a vehicle was a tool. I feel vehicles want to turn into a subscription service these days. I still see these running in rural Spain and France, usually held together with wire and hope, clocking like what 400k+ km? The XUD diesel engines are practically unkillable. They have no ECU to brick, no adblue sensors to fail and put the car into limp mode and thankfully none of those DRM locked…

This. I think the entire argument and comparison is a fallacy because you can't just compare vehicles on utilitarian factors when many (most?) people are buying primarily based on fashion/aesthetics. Through my American eyes that C15 is dog shit ugly and I don't even care to read through how it measures up on utility because it's style is already a dealbreaker.

Personally-I know I don't need a big truck, and don't have farm/ranch/heavy duty requirements, but SUVs are quite useful for normal city life in most of the US. Several times a month I am fully loaded for some reason or another. May as well be fashionable and handle well too since this is also the vehicle I commute in and valet at a fancy restaurant occasionally.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by testing22321 »

kube-system wrote: post #157

> The Ford Ranger (2020). One of the most popular pickups in the US. A key selling point is that the cabin is so high you can run over toddlers without even noticing. The craziest thing about this criticism is that it is phrased as hyperbole but the reality is that this is seen as a small truck in the US. The Ford Ranger actually is the best selling pickup truck in Europe for 10 straight years, but doesn’t sell as mu…

My wife walked past an F350 the other day with our toddler, and the hood was above her head.

My wife, that is. She’s 5’10”.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by nottorp »

Aurornis wrote: post #202
hedgehog wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no, across the line Toyota still tries to sell you a subscription service that's required for things like remote start.

So? Why would people buying the cheapest possible model care? Remote start is a luxury feature. Just ignore the subscription offer like a luxury trim option.

It depends. What else is included in that subscription? Mirror and seat heating by any chance?

Can you buy a Toyota that isn't always online? Because having remote start available, subscription or not, sounds like you can't.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by jacekm »

carlosjobim wrote: post #92

"This Mastodon server is a friendly and respectful discussion space for people working in areas related to EU policy." "The Ford Ranger (2020). One of the most popular pickups in the US. A key selling point is that the cabin is so high you can run over toddlers without even noticing." Lovely people as always. Would you like to live neighbours with this person, or share communal facilities with him?

> Would you like to live neighbours with this person

Sure, because he has a sense of humor.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by beezle »

jeron wrote: post #208
kube-system wrote: post #157

> The Ford Ranger (2020). One of the most popular pickups in the US. A key selling point is that the cabin is so high you can run over toddlers without even noticing. The craziest thing about this criticism is that it is phrased as hyperbole but the reality is that this is seen as a small truck in the US. The Ford Ranger actually is the best selling pickup truck in Europe for 10 straight years, but doesn’t sell as mu…

I'm probably one of the few people in this thread who are actually truck shopping right now The ranger is a great option for most people but one of my capabilities for the truck is to bring my bike to motorcycle track days. Usually I'd only take a single motorcycle, however track days are more fun with friends. to fit two motorcycles in the back of the Ranger, you need to adjust the angle of the handlebars awkwardly…

Don't know why you are down voted. People just assume that you have a place to store a trailer (and truck and motorcycle).

As to your choice of the Ford,as a rural late model (2018) F-150 owner, I'd encourage you to consider something else. A used Tundra V8 or one of the GMC/Chevy's. My mechanic is thumbs down on the Rams longer term.

I've had nothing but stupidity with this F-150 and all I do is personal plowing and a few loads of gravel or dirt each year. Granted, my steep dirt road can be very rough in mud season. But I've now spent about 8K in non-maintenance repairs.

I say this as a past owner of multiple mustangs and rangers - I'm done with Ford.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by klum »

wrigby wrote: post #110
everdrive wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if people would make one that wasn't an iPad on wheels I'd be in line to buy.

This is my exact same sentiment. I’m cautiously excited about the upcoming Slate Pickup[1] - I can see it being my go-to if I leave NYC, but it still won’t hit like the XJ Cherokee I drove before I gave up cars for the city. 1: https://www.slate.auto/

Looks interesting, I wonder to what extent they really want to make cars DIY-able again (as they state). On the one hand, they mention servicing is "easy" — just turn to their partner repair shop chain! On the other hand, there's Slate University and mention of repairability. I haven't followed development of this at all, so I'm genuinely curious. Hope it's not just "you can swap in and out our proprietary modules".

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by IgorPartola »

kube-system wrote: post #157

> The Ford Ranger (2020). One of the most popular pickups in the US. A key selling point is that the cabin is so high you can run over toddlers without even noticing. The craziest thing about this criticism is that it is phrased as hyperbole but the reality is that this is seen as a small truck in the US. The Ford Ranger actually is the best selling pickup truck in Europe for 10 straight years, but doesn’t sell as mu…

I have a Ford F-150 (14 gen) and the front is so huge I need to step on the front grill guard to reach anything inside the engine compartment. It is all around an unreasonably sized vehicle. My excuse is that (a) I do use it for home improvement stuff and for hauling stuff around and (b) I work from home so no commute. But for most people who do not work construction this is an insane daily driver.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by sparrish »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #228
benregenspan wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they meant it has much larger % share of pickup market in Europe vs US, not necessarily higher absolute number of sales ( https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/feu/en/news/2025/02... )

Surely the hilux would be more popular than the ranger, but maybe Toyota just sends those to the developing world and Australia?

I'd love to buy a Hilux in the US but they aren't available. Drove them in South America for years and they're great vehicles.
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