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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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The most maximally vindictive candidates are earning my votes in the coming election.

> most maximally vindictive candidates I think that's how we got to this point today, tbh.

Imprisoning fascists who break out laws and shoot people dead is good.

The fact that the fascists want to kill people for being brown doesn't change this.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Quite the opposite actually. Democrats have been so complacent with the proto-fascists for so long, that republicans will now justify murdering a mother in broad daylight, filmed under 3 angles clearly showing she is fearing for her life. The solution to fascism is not compromise and weakness.

We live in different worlds, friend. Please know there are people across the aisle that view it differently. When things calm down, talk with them and learn. Nobody wins when we insist the world is only as we alone view it.

My aunt is a republican lobbyist. She is also a drunk. She regularly texts my family things like how my other aunt, who is disabled, should kill herself rather than take medicaid money. She has told her daughter, who has attempted suicide twice, that she'd be better off dead than be bisexual. She texts us things about how every somali person in the US is going to get what is coming to them.

How should I talk with her to learn things?

Frankly, I'm absolutely fucking sick of leaders within the GOP saying that a woman is a domestic terrorist trained in using cars as weapons after an ICE goon murders her. Call me when the republicans send Trump to the gallows. Then I'll consider opening my heart up.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Look at the MOVE bombing, etc - if they wanted to glass the Bundys, they would have. Safety wasn't the reason they didn't.

I wouldn't describe 'safety' as the state of things after the last time feds glassed a right-wing adjacent group. When the feds 'glassed' Waco, a little known guy named Timothy McVeigh was there. He used it as inspiration to bomb a federal building at which there were 700+ casualties of which over 150 were deaths. The feds were very much aware "Bundys" was not just the ranching family but a whole bunch of people and…

I probably agree with your position in general. I would note that from my position it's more about the politics of the right and how that's more tolerable for folks in power.

Consider Michael Reinoehl.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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It's not flattering to the US that the mother who was murdered needed specifically to be white for people to care.

> It's not flattering to the US There's such a long list of things one could say that about. In this instance the "representation matters" thought process seems to bear out. Folks talk about aspiring to role models who look like them. People also react strongly when this sort of thing happens to someone who looks like them.

The problem is that you can slice representation every which way. It could be "I only identify with 6'3" males who live in Idaho and like trains", or it could be "I identify with humans".

The fact that US culture chooses to identify with people of the same colour is telling, though I don't know, maybe that's a human thing and my country is too homogeneous for me to think otherwise.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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It's not. I was a "90 day fiance" immigrant (the concept, not the show). We had a sincere relationship, but we both agreed that our marriage, while genuine, was earlier than it would have otherwise been other than logistics of an trans-Pacific romance. We stayed together 5 years, then separated/divorced, amicably. In the midst of all that I missed a USCIS filing date. I was out of status briefly, but also in a situat…

Most K1 applications are approved, most are female, most are not white. I doubt your case would have been any different had you not been a "'the right color' and a high-earning male".

She wasn't referring to K1 visas specifically, she was referring to USCIS and how they'd prioritize dealing with enforcement actions against people in non-compliance with their visa obligations.

And I'd suspect as an immigration attorney, she likely had first-hand experience of same.

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Trying and punishing members of the Trump administration for their crimes is not the same as sending people to concentration camps for having a color of skin that Miller hates.

It is not insightful to say "oh isn't this the same thing that the fascists are doing." It is anti-insight.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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> What does this have to do with gp's claim about cycle of reprisals by both parties? It can be simultaneously possible to admit that the leader of one party is more sane than the other, and to observe that both parties are engaging in cycles of retaliation when they get in power, and that egging on even more retaliation is going to make the situation worse. I think the reason we are in the situation we are in now is…

>I think the reason we are in the situation we are in now is that the last administration wasn't nearly retaliatory _enough_ after J6 Jailing Hitler sure stopped his movement in its tracks! Or maybe we should have gone even further and set a precedent for to jail people for decades for having "dangerous" political opinions?

Jailing Hitler did stop the movement. It was only that he was given a light sentence and was released that he was able to complete his evil.

Trump would have lost in 2024 if he was running from prison for his crimes against the country.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Which you can just engage on your current phone.

Airplane mode often leaves bluetooth on, with all the tracking that enables.

On Android at least for now, you can use systemui tuner to pick what gets toggled for airplane mode: Cell, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, NFC, WiMAX.

No root needed

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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I fundamentally disagree that ICE deserves that presumption. They have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be unreasonable people who want to hurt others. I'm sure there's a story they'll tell about why it was totally legal to shoot her, but they're murderers and you're supporting murderers until they prove that there was she was doing something so terrible they had no choice.

Hm, as with taxes, do we get to choose which federal enforcement agency we are willing to submit to? Not going to lie man, it is a fascinating frame of mind to me and I am absolutely willing to talk to you about it if you wanna go that route. This is not exactly how any of it works, at all. I am not being difficult man, but I don't get to, say, block FBI caravan, because I don't think they deserve 'that' presumption…

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