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I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by __jonas »

colbythrowaway wrote: post #236
intern4tional wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming this is real and you have the authority to share your work from previous location; you should reach out and contact Microsoft Legal directly. A random engineer on Hacker News is not the proper channel. Link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/compliance/sbc/report-...

I'm not an engineer, and no one should be getting the impression that anyone else is under the impression that HN is the place to seek an authoritative disposition about this. It is, though, an acceptable channel for the sort of collegial and informal heads-up that this is (and which is all that this is). Your desire to condescend, however, is noted.

I think it would be interesting for people if your comment was a little more specific about what the issue is. Is this about ffmpeg as raised here: https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/34236 ?

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by artdigital »

bpasero wrote: post #131

We maintain a single VS Code setting that allows you to opt out of the AI features provided in VS Code: "chat.disableAIFeatures" (see also: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_104#_hide-and-disab... ). If you can still find AI features appearing after you have configured this setting, then please report an issue at https://github.com/microsoft/vscode and we are happy to take a look. It is possible that from time…

Btw, Zed has a similar setting to turn off all AI features :)

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by yndoendo »

echelon wrote: post #216
lioeters wrote: post #186

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Bravo, I respect that VS Code has added a single setting to disable all AI features. It prioritizes user choice and agency. Considering there was a recent rebranding as "the open source AI code editor", it means a lot to new and existing users that there's a choice to not use AI. For many companies and products it's apparently hard to do these days when LLM integration is the hot new thing pushed by management and in…

I'd like to attach to this comment to say that we should support smaller companies. It doesn't matter how responsive a big company is if it controls too much surface area of the important technological salients. Large company hegemony of our industry is bad. VSCode, Google Search + Chrome, mobile phone duopoly, Amazon/AWS/MGM/WholeFoods/TeleDoc conglomeration and cross promotion... It doesn't matter. We need more dis…

Fun fact.

I do not financially support any restaurant that has a Wall-street ticker. I wish more people would do this. There should be no reason to fund some CEO on Wall-street when we can benefit more by funding local communities.

P.S. You have to pay me to use Microsoft products and to engage with Amazon.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by meander_water »

For those looking for a better language server for python, I would recommend ruff. As of v0.4.5 it's completely written in rust, and much faster than pylance.

If you've got the ruff plugin installed it should use it by default. Should be able to use it in zed as well.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by fingerlocks »

intern4tional wrote: post #230
fingerlocks wrote: post #202

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Would love to know what happens in perf review for MSFT employees that flip this switch.

Nothing. This isn't something that is even tracked. AI usage is obviously encouraged but HR has far better things to do than go gather this kind of data. Internally, depending on what product is being worked on teams will have different development flows and different usage points of AI. For things like VSCode, teams have freedom on how they use it completely.

This is not true company wide. I’ve personally been reprimanded for low GitHub copilot usage by my orgs leadership, not HR.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by j1elo »

ashvardanian wrote: post #210

I’m currently using a mix of Zed, Sublime, and VS Code. The biggest missing piece in Zed for my workflow right now is side-by-side diffs. There’s an open discussion about it, though it hasn’t seen much activity recently: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770 Stronger support for GDB/LLDB and broader C/C++ tooling would also be a big win. It’s pretty wild how bloated most software has become. Huge th…

> The biggest missing piece in Zed for my workflow right now is side-by-side diffs.

> It’s pretty wild how bloated most software has become.

It's a bit ironic to see those two in the same message but I'd argue that right there is an example of why software becomes bloated. There is always someone who says "but it would be great to have X" that in spirit might be tangentially relevant, but it's a whole ordeal of its own.

Diffing text, for example, requires a very different set of tools and techniques than what just a plain text editor would already have. That's why there are standalone products like Meld and the very good Beyond Compare; and they tend to be much better than a jack of all trades editor (at least I was never able to like more the diff UI in e.g. VSCode than the UI of Meld or the customization features of BC).

Same for other tangential stuff like VCS integration; VSCode has something in there, but any special purpose app is miles ahead in ease of use and features.

In the end, the creators of an editor need to spend so much time adding what amounts to suplemental and peripheral features, instead of focusing on the best possible core product. Expectations are so high that the sky is the limit. Everyone wants their own pet sub-feature ("when will it integrate a Pomodoro timer?").

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by justinhj »

onehair wrote: post #117
mark_l_watson wrote: post #57

This article struck a personal chord with me: I bought a new MacBook a week ago and installed minimal software on it, specifically I did not install VSCode and I don’t miss it. I use Emacs exclusively on my new laptop. I have about 40 years experience with Emacs and except for a treemacs automations, I am using my regular setup. VSCode is a great project but I just didn’t feel “happy” while I was using it. I feel hap…

We don't all have - 40 years experience with Emacs - the ability to predict that 20 years from when we started we would fall in love with Emacs - the fortitude of will to overcome the mountainous project that it is to turn Emacs, The text editor "toolkit", into the perfect text editor for you.

You may be surprised how short a path it is to the perfect emacs config for you.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by heartbreak »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #244
illiac786 wrote: post #193

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I really don’t get this attitude. What deal do you mean? You using VS Code? Why not change the setting simply?

> Why not change the setting simply? My default settings are stored in a 11922 line json file. Am I expected to read that entire file to find the setting I'm after? Am I expected to do so when I don't know what the setting is called? The reason you can't simply change the setting is because the setting isn't simple. It's essentially a hidden setting, cloaked behind an ambiguous name in a user-hostile manner.

> My default settings are stored in a 11922 line json file. Am I expected to read that entire file to find the setting I'm after?

That’s what AI is for. Have it turn itself off.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by nebezb »

colbythrowaway wrote: post #236
intern4tional wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming this is real and you have the authority to share your work from previous location; you should reach out and contact Microsoft Legal directly. A random engineer on Hacker News is not the proper channel. Link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/compliance/sbc/report-...

I'm not an engineer, and no one should be getting the impression that anyone else is under the impression that HN is the place to seek an authoritative disposition about this. It is, though, an acceptable channel for the sort of collegial and informal heads-up that this is (and which is all that this is). Your desire to condescend, however, is noted.

You’re not the random engineer. Ben, the commenter you’re replying to, is.

You were given helpful advice and a link. I don’t see this being condescending.

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