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I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

unethical_ban wrote: post #228
Ritewut wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no such thing as a vehicle that doesn't need repairs. Just ones you can't repair yourself.

The idea is that repairability and reliability are sometimes at odds. I owned a number of 90s trucks and though it was easier to get into the engine, I had to do it well before 100k miles sometimes. Meanwhile I have a 2010s Japanese vehicle that is at 200k with only an alternator replaced.

Similarly there's now a few models of EV known to make it well past the 100k mark while needing little to no maintenance aside from replacing consumables. Most people aren't knowledgeable or well-equipped enough to work on those, though.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Post by yaro330 »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #177
konaraddi wrote: post #170

I think the author is the target customer for Framework. A customer looking for a ship of Theseus laptop that the seller stands by. I’ve looked at framework as a potential next laptop but it’s expensive, some of parts are expensive, and the other parts I’m not sure I’ve ever had issues with in past laptops. I think I’m better off buying multiple used thinkpads over the course of my life, or even a used MBP (refurbish…

I’m own a FW13 and I have bought ~4 for employees. I doubt I will order more. We’ve had small and large issues. My Linux machine will drain the battery completely if you don’t perform a full shutdown, and even then the quiescent drain is too high and I can expect it to be dead in a week. The dream of repairability is great, but the reality just isn’t there. That said, I was able to replace a damaged screen with no ef…

Apparently Surface laptops come with stellar repair guides now, and they improved repairability greatly. MS doing something nice for once?

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Post by yaro330 »

kllrnohj wrote: post #32
haritha-j wrote: post #14

I was on the market earlier this year snd I really wanted a framework to make sense. But it doesn’t. By my math, I could get two comparable laptops for the price of the framework, and the flexibility to get a second one with newer specs a few years down made it a bad deal for me. But if you aren’t strapped for cash and appreciate the sustainability, then it’s appealing. For me, a slightly greener laptop isn’t a good…

What were you comparing against? When I bought my framework it didn't really have a price premium to it relatively to comparable laptops. The main compromise was the thicker chassis and fewer options in terms of things like premium displays. > Plus I prefer intel for TB support for an egpu. lol you and nobody else prefer Intel in a laptop these days. But FYI framework has TB support on their Intel skus and AMD has US…

AMD USB4 is a joke. Every unplug is a gamble with amdgpu driver, you might get a working system, you might not, same for suspend-resume cycles.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Post by jckahn »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #226
jdblair wrote: post #39

I'm also a laptop weirdo and I've had a Framework 13 with the Ryzen 7 motherboard since May of 2022. I run Ubuntu (currently 25.10) on it. Its a good laptop, but not a great laptop. Its very light and compact (very important to me), and its been reliable, at least since the AMD GPU driver issues were resolved. The matte screen is fine, battery life is adequate, and the CPU meets my needs as a hobby developer. Overall…

> Its biggest issues are the touchpad (it's a diving board design, so you have to always click in the bottom 1/3 of the pad) Wait, are you saying it's not possible to change settings so that I can - single finger tap anywhere for a left click, - two finger tap anywhere for a right click.

No, it is. That's how I use mine.

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Post by distances »

systemtest wrote: post #235
bluescrn wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most flash drives and wired mice/keyboards are still USB-A. And people have huge piles of charging cables that are USB-A to micro/mini USB or USB-C.

I assume you are talking about legacy devices? I haven't purchased a keyboard in the past ten years with USB-A. Everything is USB-C for charging/data and Bluetooth.

I think new devices are primarily USB-A too? All my keyboards and mice are A, also the one I bought this year: https://perixx.com/products/periboard-535

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Post by 6510 »

xorcist wrote: post #169
6510 wrote: post #129

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Right, next time ill buy 1-3 extra batteries when buying a laptop.

How will you store them? In the freezer? It's not trivial to keep batteries in good condition.

Yes, good idea. I do have a large freezer. Vacuum seal it, charge to 60% one time per year. Adjust charge interval to whatever remains after 12 months. It has to stay above 30%.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Post by giancarlostoro »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #175
giancarlostoro wrote: post #73

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You can swap out the motherboard, so yeah. Not sure how long they support specific Laptop bodies (or frames) for but I would imagine some of their frames are good for a long minute.

The motherboards are often 80%+ the cost of an entire new machine though.

Probably because they include the CPU if I am not mistaken, but probably makes sense and is worth the hassle if your concern is your CPU / main hardware is falling behind.

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Post by systemtest »

distances wrote: post #256
systemtest wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you are talking about legacy devices? I haven't purchased a keyboard in the past ten years with USB-A. Everything is USB-C for charging/data and Bluetooth.

I think new devices are primarily USB-A too? All my keyboards and mice are A, also the one I bought this year: https://perixx.com/products/periboard-535

Wow. A device in 2025 with a non-detachable USB-A cable? That sounds like a horrible design decision from both a repairability and future-proofing standpoint. My keyboard has a USB-C port on the side so you can plug in whatever cable you want, A or C, long, short, curled, braided. It even connects to my phone without dongles.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Post by Ritewut »

unethical_ban wrote: post #228
Ritewut wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no such thing as a vehicle that doesn't need repairs. Just ones you can't repair yourself.

The idea is that repairability and reliability are sometimes at odds. I owned a number of 90s trucks and though it was easier to get into the engine, I had to do it well before 100k miles sometimes. Meanwhile I have a 2010s Japanese vehicle that is at 200k with only an alternator replaced.

This sounds like correlation not causation.
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