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'Ghost jobs' are on the rise – and so are calls to ban them

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Re: 'Ghost jobs' are on the rise – and so are calls to ban them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you are unfamiliar with the legal process of "discovery" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_(law)

I wonder, is there a precedence of applicant dragging the company to court over their response to such request?

Yes, it's very common when dealing with smaller businesses that don't have great legal compliance to get a court order forcing production of documents

Re: 'Ghost jobs' are on the rise – and so are calls to ban them

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In the US a lot of these are pseudo postings for immigration applications. They are technically posting the job, but in pt 3 for on page 72 of a random newspaper in a hope that nobody sees it and applies so they can say “we couldn’t find anyone so we need a visa/green card.” That’s starting to get cracked down on, but it’s been a mess and a sham for a while.

There's another side to it. Imagine a company has a guy somewhere overseas that they hired, and they worked with him for 5 years, and now they want to bring them to the US because it's more convenient and close to the main team. Can they replace it with a US applicant? Not really, unless US applicant can magically gain 5 years of experience with company's products or processes. But by law they must publish a job posting. So they post a fake job posting which nobody ever except one person could possibly fit, and silently hope nobody sees it (because they are not bad guys, they don't want to mislead anybody, they just not need a random worker, they want a very specific person for a very specific position, and they already have the person). The lawmakers meant well, the company means well, but the result is a mess.

Re: 'Ghost jobs' are on the rise – and so are calls to ban them

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My guess is that most of these jobs actually exist, in the sense that if a stellar candidate were to present theirselves, the organization would find a way to hire them.

I worked at a company where managers would endlessly push this argument to open a job posting. Of course there was no budget to hire, but they would delude themselves that the perfect candidate was out there and they'd 'be able to make a case' for the budget with the stellar application in hand. Of course they had no idea what that actually entailed otherwise they would do it in advance. To HR's credit at that compan…

It's quite rare to read about HR doing something sensible on HN. :-)
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