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10 Years of Let's Encrypt

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Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

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The next steps: 1. Add support for DNS-based persistent authentication: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-acme-dns-persist... 2. Allow the user to just publish their public key into that TXT record. 3. Cut out the middleman and do the authentication directly in the browser. 4. DANE

For someone who runs a small personal website and uses LE to secure this + some web exposed services, could you explain how this is different/better than acme-dns-certbot?

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

#252

Would be interesting to hear what database they are using and how they are doing replication? Is it simple master / slave or multi-master?

Let’s Encrypt currently has a single primary with a handful of replicas, split across a primary and backup DC.

We’re in progress of adopting Vitess to shard into a handful of smaller instances, as our single big database is getting unwieldy.

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

#253
post #36

As a sysadmin in the 2007-2011 timeframe I literally used openssl to generate csrs, went to godaddy to purchase SSL certificates and then manually deployed them to servers. Man what a world of change. Let's encrypt is one the best services we've had on the internet. I wish we had more things like this.

As a sysadmin in 2020 - 2024 time frame I used to do that all the time at my previous job, got a strong openlssl cli game going whenever needed to generate a new csr for existing key or new key and shovel an exact amount of SANs into the CSR too. Lot of time wasted. There were also a certain set of customers for which we managed systems and they insisted for it to be done this way as something free on the internet is not to be trusted. Oh well, strange times.

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

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post #198

Would be interesting to hear what database they are using and how they are doing replication? Is it simple master / slave or multi-master?

https://github.com/letsencrypt/boulder You can find a docker-compose.yml file to get some idea. Appears to be using MariaDB. They shut down OCSP responders and expiry email reminders, so there really is no need to have a database apart from rate limits, auth data, and caching. For Certificate Transparency, they are submitted to Google and CloudFlare run trees but I don't think LetsEncrypt run their own logs.

Let’s Encrypt does operate CT logs. I wrote a blog post about our current-generation logs at https://letsencrypt.org/2024/03/14/introducing-sunlight

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

#255

Would be interesting to hear what database they are using and how they are doing replication? Is it simple master / slave or multi-master?

Let’s Encrypt currently has a single primary with a handful of replicas, split across a primary and backup DC. We’re in progress of adopting Vitess to shard into a handful of smaller instances, as our single big database is getting unwieldy.

Thanks. Would love to see a tech blog post once you get Vitess implemented.

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

#256
I use Let’s Encrypt. It is an amazing service and I am forever grateful.

However, it is time for a second source of free certificates. It is not good that we rely on one supplier.

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

#257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It would be a huge price-fixing scandal if Congress had any idea of how technology works. It's shady, but technically not price-fixing unless they are a monopoly. You are free to take your business to somewhere else.

If you read into Web.Com, yes, they are quickly becoming a monopoly on host companies. They do not disclose many of the hosting companies they now own. If you can find a company that allows clients to install Let's Encrypt Certs on shared hosting, please let me know.

Yeah, fair point. I have not used shared hosting for a long time now (static sites are easy/free to host, and dynamic ones don't play well with shared hosting), so I didn't know the Web.com story.

I used DreamHost in the past and they had a configuration option in their control panel to automatically install and maintain a Let's Encrypt certificate on your behalf [1]. If you are stuck with Web.com you may consider using a reverse proxy/CDN such as CloudFlare.

[1] https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/216539548-Addin...

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience was: get 3-year certificate for free, install it and forget about it. With LetsEncrypt, it's always pain, expired websites everywhere. Too bad that american IT mafia put these good CA out of business.

American IT Mafia? That provides free certificates? You'd think setting up renewal would be less of a hassle than dealing and paying CAs even if it's once every 3 years, so that would be a rather benevolent mafia. Which of those CAs went out of business by the way? Do you think Let's encrypt is less popular outside the US?

StartSSL, WoSign were the ones I've used. Very convenient services, much more convenient, compared to this certbot insanity.

I think that the rest of the world does not have much choice, because US uses their IT superiority to force political decisions to the rest of the world. I experienced that first-hand. When my country wanted to implement MITM to improve Internet usability for their citizens, US companies blacklisted government root certificate which disrupted this scheme and forced my country to roll back this plan. Now I have lots of websites completely blocked, instead of more careful and precise per-page blocking that would only be possible with MITM.

Hopefully, over time, China and Russia will destroy this superiority and will provide viable alternatives.

Re: 10 Years of Let's Encrypt

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post #87

Lets hope they stay independent and never get acquired by Google or any other large tech company. You can imagine a web where SSL issuance is used as a tool to censor websites. I think most browsers have been made to make standard http sites look malicious to normal users.

They're a nonprofit - so they can't be acquired like a typical for-profit company. They could in theory sell some assets but it'd be very convoluted if they were the core assets -- per US tax law, nonprofit assets must remain in the nonprofit world, so there's no risk of any tech company ruining them.

Look at OpenAI - where there’s a will (and an army of lawyers), there’s a way. That said, I don’t think any of the big tech orgs would be interested in acquiring them. Google and Amazon even already have their own public CAs that are in the major trust stores.
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