> "Markets: EU, UK, Norway and Switzerland" Well, crap!
Time to move? :P
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasnt offered to everyone. They did the whole thing by trickling out information based on batches based on when you ordered. And for the record I wasnt shipped a tablet, given a refund or offered a voucher and based on comments at the time I wasnt the only one. It was a total writeoff.
Did you write to them? Perhaps they could have lost your data.
They answered elsewhere in the thread:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46164485
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
And Lenovo doesn’t?
If all thinkpads did the same thing, then maybe they would. If it was the flagship laptop (t14s or x1 carbon) then, yeah. Otherwise, no. Lenovo is a smaller player by far than HP or Dell, and less focused than Microsoft or Apple (commanding lower prices on average also). The most popular thinkpad is actually the E14, which is a budget notebook. Most finance departments can’t tell the difference and its usually develo…
> Lenovo is a smaller player by far than HP or Dell
Wut.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
Again, starting from elements of Maemo is a surefire way to ship a ghastly user experience. The N800 that I still own had the most hostile UI of any device I ever bought with my own money. The reason it flopped was because it is really bad, not a great conspiracy. Look at the TODOs for Maemo Leste, which you just referenced. "Phone calls should work, with audio, when alsamixer is set up properly". That is F-tier user…
Two words: Nokia N9.
It was a child of times when stuff like proprietary banking apps were not a thing.
Still, I think the Jolla Phone would make a great second "toy" phone, if you have the budget for a 500€ toy.
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#255Why no audio jack? Sooo close!
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about 3% of sales: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula...
In march of that year, but was higher before, no ? Anyway, that's ~ 3 million phones. It's a lot.
I'm making this distinction post-hoc, so I already know how it turned out: they ultimately decided to stop making those smaller devices. I assume that means it wasn't enough sales to be a financially viable product, and to me, selling "enough" would mean that Apple found it profitable to maintain the supply chains and assembly lines for those smaller devices and continued to invest in the product.
Arguing against myself, Apple could be discontinuing the smaller models because they did market research and found that most buyers of smaller, cheaper devices could be converted to buyers of larger, more expensive devices if those smaller devices didn't exist. Auto manufacturers are doing just that, discontinuing or enlarging smaller light trucks in favor of larger models that are subject to less regulation and therefore can be designed and manufactured more cheaply and might offer even more profit.
If Apple has or had that strategy, then my assumptions are flawed because no matter how many mini iPhones they sell, they would still want to get rid of the line as long as most of those customers could be converted to full-size iPhone customers.
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#25747% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback.
Every now and then some phone manufacturer mistakes online sentiment for actual demand and gets burned making a mini phone that won’t sell
Make a smaller phone with good battery life, not smaller AND thinner. The iPhone minis barely got me through the workday, let alone a full day.
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every now and then some phone manufacturer mistakes online sentiment for actual demand and gets burned making a mini phone that won’t sell
What 5-ish inch screen phone has even been released within the past 5 years? The only ones I can think of are the Unihertz phones, and those don't get a single update after getting shoved out the door, not to mention that they're probably full of Chinese backdoors. I'd buy that exact phone in a heartbeat if it didn't have those problems, and all the other ones I've seen have similar dealbreakers.
The Phonemax R4 GT uses a 4.3" screen and was released this year.
There are not many, but there are not zero either.
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The platform always suffered from two big architectural missteps. 1 - the native browser being an old firefox/gecko fork embedded into their own UI framework, giving a poor performance and dated compatibility quirks 2 - the android emulating runtime meant that you get again, dated , poorly performing android apps, that you're driven towards because the browser engine was so poor. these two mean you basically end up w…
The Firefox engine legacy goes back to the Maemo times - its not ideal, but what else would you use ? The web engine situation is quite bleak even on desktop Linux distros and its even worse on mobile Linux.
My naive assumption is that WebKit would give a route towards blink and more mainstream compatibility. Gecko was a perfectly defensible choice in the Maemo era, the landscape just moved. That's my point, Jolla sailfish are coupled to old choices and don't have the resource to do much more than keep those maintained.
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#260Android and iOS need to be shaken up so badly that I welcome more or less anything into this space, no matter how flawed. That said, I think the chances I buy one of these is very low. At the moment, I keep a smart phone solely so that finding work is not difficult. You need quite the personal network to explain that "I don't have a smart phone." Otherwise, I'm trying to abstain from smart phone usage as much as poss…
I echo your sentiments on smartphone addiction problem. But I don't understand why you wouldn't buy it although this is in the same spirit of shaking up the duopoly you alluded to.