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Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

#251

Bun has completely changed my outlook on the JS ecosystem. Prior to Bun, there was little focus on performance. Now the entire space rallies around it. Congrats to Jarred and the team!

That's because it's not written in JS at all but a compiled systems language, no wonder it's gonna be fast.

Virtually all JavaScript engines are written in compiled languages. (Most runtimes for that matter nut just JS)

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

#252

As someone who have been using Deno for the last few years, is there anything that Bun does better? Bun seems to use a different runtime (JSC) which is less tested than V8, which makes me assume it might perform worse in real-world tasks (maybe not anymore?). The last time I checked Bun's source code, it was... quite messy and spaghetti-like, plus Zig doesn't really offer many safety features, so it's not that hard t…

I tried several times to port Node projects to Deno. Each time compatibility had "improved" but I still didn't have a working build after a few days of effort.

I don't know how Deno is today. I switched to Bun and porting went a lot smoother.

Philosophically, I like that Bun sees Node compatibility as an obvious top priority. Deno sees it as a grudging necessity after losing the fight to do things differently.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

#253

So many comments about reasoning here, yet none about the very obvious one, it's not stability of the infrastructure, it's future direction of a product like Claude Code. They need to know how to continue their optimisation machine to fit developers needs the best way possible (for good or for worse). I guess we should wait for some opt-out telemetry some time soon. It'll be nothing too crazy at first, but we'll see…

Don't they already have a ton of telemetry from Claude Code itself? I'd be shocked and expect an instant fork if Anthropic telemetry was added to Bun.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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But how is another company that is also VC backed and losing money providing stability for Bun? How long before we hear about “Our Amazing Journey”? On the other hand, I would rather see someone like Bun have a successful exit where the founders seem to have started out with a passion project, got funding, built something out they were excited about and then exit than yet another AI company by non technical founders…

Anthropic may be losing money, but a company with $7bn revenue run rate ( https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-dario-amodei-americ... ) is a whole lot healthier than a company with a revenue of 0.

Idk, I’m no business expert by any means, but I’m a hell of a lot more _scared_ by a company burning so much that’s $7b is still losing

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

#255

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pnpm does all that on top of node. Also disables postinstall scripts by default, making the recent security incidents we've seen a non-issue.

I’m not sure why but bun still feels snappier.

This is why: https://bun.com/blog/behind-the-scenes-of-bun-install

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Weird, AI writes terrible code for me that would never pass a code review. I guess people have different standards for good code.

Or maybe he's working in a space that is less out of distribution than the work you're doing?

You’re right, I’m not making a nextjs/shadcn/clerk/vercel ai wrapper startup.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how is another company that is also VC backed and losing money providing stability for Bun? How long before we hear about “Our Amazing Journey”? On the other hand, I would rather see someone like Bun have a successful exit where the founders seem to have started out with a passion project, got funding, built something out they were excited about and then exit than yet another AI company by non technical founders…

Often it happens that VCs buy out companies from funds belonging to a fresh because the selling fund wants to show performance to their investors until "the big one", or move cash one from wealthy pocket to another one. "You buy me this, next time I save you on that", etc... "Raised $19 million Series A led by Khosla Ventures + $7 million" "Today, Bun makes $0 in revenue." Everything is almost public domain (MIT) and…

It's an acquihire. If Anthropic is spending significant resources, or see that they will have to, to improve Bun internally already it makes a lot of sense. No nefarious undertones required.

An analogous example off the top of my head is Shopify hired Rafael Franca to work on Rails full-time.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

#259

As someone who have been using Deno for the last few years, is there anything that Bun does better? Bun seems to use a different runtime (JSC) which is less tested than V8, which makes me assume it might perform worse in real-world tasks (maybe not anymore?). The last time I checked Bun's source code, it was... quite messy and spaghetti-like, plus Zig doesn't really offer many safety features, so it's not that hard t…

> is there anything that Bun does better?

Telling prospective employees that if you're not ready to work 60-hour weeks, then what the fuck are you doing here? for one.

> Zig does force some safety with ReleaseSafe IIRC

which Bun doesn't use, choosing to go with `ReleaseFast` instead.

Re: Anthropic acquires Bun

#260

As someone who have been using Deno for the last few years, is there anything that Bun does better? Bun seems to use a different runtime (JSC) which is less tested than V8, which makes me assume it might perform worse in real-world tasks (maybe not anymore?). The last time I checked Bun's source code, it was... quite messy and spaghetti-like, plus Zig doesn't really offer many safety features, so it's not that hard t…

Stopped following Deno while they were rejecting the need for a package management solution. Used Bun instead.

Isn’t because packages are one of the problems deno tried to fix?
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