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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

Meh. Most people, including myself, couldn't care less, and Yandex image search is very capable.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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I think "no wars of conquest" is a bright line that was crossed by Russia, that hasn't been crossed by other nations in a long time. And I think it's important for the whole world to take a stand on that, not just the nation that was invaded. It's not a "random stand."

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Plenty of people boycott Israeli goods and there's an increasing trend of moving away from reliance on American services also.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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The other day I was researching with ChatGPT. * ChatGPT hallucinated an answer * ChatGPT put it in my memory, so it persisted between conversations * When asked for a citation, ChatGPT found 2 AI created articles to back itself up It took a while, but I eventually found human written documentation from the organization that created the technical thingy I was investigating. This happens A LOT for topics on the edge of…

AI reminds me of combing through stackoverflow answers. The first one might work... Or it might not. Try again, find a different SO problem and answer. Maybe third times the charm...

Except it's all via the chat bot and it isn't as easy to get it to move off of a broken solution.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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I find this amusing, because it seems like Kagi's target audience dislikes this (politically polarized), and I as someone who is not Kagi's target audience likes this (politically neutral).

Wait, what? Their choice is specifically a politically neutral one, wouldn't that mean their target audience is a politically neutral one? Why is your impression that Kagi's target audience is politically polarized users? Been a paying user of Kagi for years, never got that impression. FWIW, I don't think Kagi should remove or avoid indexing content from countries that invade others, because a lot of the times websit…

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

Yandex has the best image search, and others are years behind it. Further more Nebius has sold all group’s businesses in Russia and certain international market. They are completely divested from Russia for a 1.5 years already: https://nebius.com/newsroom/ynv-announces-successful-complet... The post you linked was posted when the divestment was already going underway, so it is at least dishonest if not malicious.

You are mistaken to think that zealots can be reasoned with. They have been conditioned to react upon anything “Russia” like a Pavlovian cue, a command of the trained animal. They are a herd that moves as a herd, based on cues of lead animals. No amount of proof or evidence will ever dissuade them from a position that the herd is moving in. They cannot reason on their own and lack the courage to separate, let alone say something that the herd disapproves of, lest they be expelled from the herd and ganged up on.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

So if America invades Venezuela should we all stop using google? Should we have stopped using google when the U.S. invaded Iraq and killed 150,000 people[1]?

Should we stop using products imported from China for the cultural genocide they've perpetrated against the Uyghurs?[2]

Is Yandex Russia?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #163

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Whataboutism doesn't get us anywhere — saying "but what about X" (insert anything for X here) usually results in doing nothing. Some of us would rather take a stand, imperfect as it is, than just sit and do nothing. Especially in the very clear case of someone (Kagi) doing business with a country that invaded a neighboring country for no reason, and keeps killing people there.

Why this particular stand? Is doing nothing any better than taking what are essentially random stands? Obviously if you are Ukrainian this will be an important stand to you, but otherwise doing things based on a mix of what the media you like focuses on or whatever is not really very different from doing nothing.

> Why this particular stand?

First, any stand is better than whataboutism and just sitting there doing nothing.

Second, this stand results from my thoughts. It is my stand. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Third, in the history of the modern world there were very few black&white situations where there was one side which was clearly the aggressor. This is one of them.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #202

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I think "no wars of conquest" is a bright line that was crossed by Russia, that hasn't been crossed by other nations in a long time. And I think it's important for the whole world to take a stand on that, not just the nation that was invaded. It's not a "random stand."

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did you just "but what about X" to the previous comment which is the whole point of this thread?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think "no wars of conquest" is a bright line that was crossed by Russia, that hasn't been crossed by other nations in a long time. And I think it's important for the whole world to take a stand on that, not just the nation that was invaded. It's not a "random stand."

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I am amused by my (unpopular and downvoted by now) comment by the scourge of "whataboutism" sparked a discussion, where comments begin with "how about" :-)

That is exactly my point! Saying "but what about" is akin to saying "you shouldn't do anything, because there is another unrelated $thing happening elsewhere". I refuse to follow this line of thinking.

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