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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by binarymax »

tavavex wrote: post #231
charcircuit wrote: post #172

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It may reduce decision paralysis and they are hoping their recommendation is good enough.

I honestly think that at some point, there will be no recommendations page. You'll open YouTube and it'll start autoplaying the video that they (or the advertisers) think you should see. You'll be able to skip to other videos from there, like on short-form content platforms. Likes and subscriptions will dictate how likely it'll be that you'll see a video by that creator in the future. Search and other "outdated" feat…

Madness

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Post by donohoe »

danpalmer wrote: post #59
tcfhgj wrote: post #40

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Blocking ads is hardly "pirating" content

To be clear, this is not a value judgement. I pirate content sometimes, and I use adblockers, but ad blocking is definitely piracy – you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I realise that online ads have other implications such as tracking that, say, a blu-ray rip downloaded from a torrent doesn't have, but the reason for piracy doesn't change the fact that it is.

No. Ad blocking is NOT piracy. It’s really that simple.

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Post by shminge »

sreya wrote: post #219
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

I used to pay for YouTube premium. I stopped doing that, uninstalled the apps, and now use it through the browser with adblockers. (Yes, on my phone and iPad.) It works so well I’ve gotten at least half a dozen neighbours to do the same. If you haven’t tried it, it’s a definitive step up in UX.

Not being able to play Youtube in the background on your phone is unfortunately one of the main appeals of Premium. There's a lot of good mixes, concerts, etc that I play for the audio while doing something else that I can't do without Premium unless I wanted to leave my phone unlocked (and pray I don't pocket click a link).

If you're on Android, YouTube Revanced does this (+many other premium features)

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Post by danpalmer »

marssaxman wrote: post #247
danpalmer wrote: post #59

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To be clear, this is not a value judgement. I pirate content sometimes, and I use adblockers, but ad blocking is definitely piracy – you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I realise that online ads have other implications such as tracking that, say, a blu-ray rip downloaded from a torrent doesn't have, but the reason for piracy doesn't change the fact that it is.

While this is not an unreasonable way one could define "piracy", surely you must be aware that your definition is significantly more expansive than the one in common use?

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Post by danpalmer »

tailrecursion wrote: post #180
danpalmer wrote: post #110

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The advertiser is buying the right to put an advert in front of you, not the right to a sale. Whether they convert you is up to them, their product, their offering, etc. I think you can never buy a single product from an ad and this is still piracy. That said, a lot of advertising is not performance/pay-per-click focused as you've described and is instead brand advertising. The point of the Coca-Cola christmas ads is…

No, piracy is defined as stealing a vendor's exclusivity by making copies and putting them up on a web site. Ad blocking is not the same as making copies and distributing. You might as well argue that covering your ears during a TV advertisement is piracy. That's a strange definition of the word if I ever saw one.

I think content piracy is generally accepted to not require re-distributing. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but if I search "watch free movies online" and find a site streaming bad DVD rips, I fully believe that I am pirating that content against the wishes of the content owner.

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Post by snicky »

danpalmer wrote: post #36
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

I used to pay for YouTube premium. I stopped doing that, uninstalled the apps, and now use it through the browser with adblockers. (Yes, on my phone and iPad.) It works so well I’ve gotten at least half a dozen neighbours to do the same. If you haven’t tried it, it’s a definitive step up in UX.

I do pay for YouTube Premium, I see no ads, and everything works pretty conveniently. What's your point, that with a bit of extra effort you can pirate content?

Just here to say thank you to everyone arguing/explaining why ad blockers are not piracy using interesting arguments better than my own.

You will never walk alone.

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Post by HDThoreaun »

defrost wrote: post #243
HDThoreaun wrote: post #241

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What contract do you make when you enter a grocery store?

Nothing that obligates looking at in-store advertising. Deaf and blind people are allowed to enter despite their inability to see and hear adverts and jingles. Fully able people with headphones that avoid looking at ads are not ejected. You have a very weak position here that isn't advanced by this analogy.

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Post by duxup »

I miss when I could search youtube for "cats" and I'd get just raw cat footage.

Now I get cat influencers and influencers selling me on them ... while they tell me how to pick a cat. Maybe I find kinda raw cat footage, with a title that is misleading, annoying music, text bubbles popping all over it :(

I just want what I searched for ... youtube doesn't give me that.

It's not that unlike when I open the home page, I've no control and so much of that isn't what I'm looking for...

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Post by spaqin »

vitorgrs wrote: post #236
charcircuit wrote: post #165

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Yes, there are. But there is a toggle to switch them on and off.

Not sure why mine there's no ads... Never had to toggle, as far I remember. I used Revanced Manager.

Possibly they installed it from one of the scam sites that pop up when you search for YouTube Revanced.

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Post by HDThoreaun »

baumy wrote: post #232
JAlexoid wrote: post #212

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Are you going to lie that you didn't know that the videos are shown to you in exchange for ads? Entering into a contract doesn't necessarily require you to sign a document. Quite a few contracts that we make every day require no formal acceptance, like entering a shop.

No, I'm going to state the truth that I never agreed to be shown ads, and you are extremely weird for lying and claiming that I did. Google wants to show me ads. I don't want to see them. I demonstrated this by blocking them. Google continues to show me videos anyway. Clearly they're ok with the arrangement. They are free to present me with written terms, or gate all their videos behind a login, but they choose not t…

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