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.NET MAUI is coming to Linux and the browser

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Post by samspot »

cryptonym wrote: post #220
mnemonet wrote: post #213

It's a nice idea, but the execution is taking the wrong path in my opinion. By rendering everything to a ` ` they're sacrificing any hope of accessibility and compatibility with browser standards for UX. I would have much preferred a React-Native-style approach, where they render to true HTML instead. Even then, WASM files are too heavy for quick loading times without good internet (and sometimes even with). The proj…

It's not meant to be an HTML renderer. That's for .NET apps. While it's cool they can run in a browser, that's not meant to build websites. Would you complain that Qwasm/Dwasm doesn't follow HTML standards of accessibility?

Accessibility is for all user experiences, not just websites. WCAG is still a good resource for native apps even where some specifics do not 100% apply.

If Qwasm is referring to Quake, it absolutely should have, for example, legible color contrast and be usable if you are colorblind.

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Post by kazinator »

wiseowise wrote: post #165
kazinator wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's move the goalposts downfield. If you can't go into developer mode and mess with the DOM, and JS, it's not real web.

Unironically – yes.

By the way my comment was likewise already unironic.

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Post by coffeeaddict1 »

DeathArrow wrote: post #135
coffeeaddict1 wrote: post #10

> We are collaborating with the Flutter team at Google to bring Impeller, their GPU first renderer, to .NET. That work is already in progress and as it lands, the MAUI backend will inherit those gains. Interesting, I wonder how good Impeller is and if it's actually better than the new Graphite backend of Skia.

Impeller is designed with mobile apps in mind while Graphite is designed with desktop apps in mind.

I don't think this is correct. Chrome uses Graphite and their biggest supported platform is Android.

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Post by pie_flavor »

ForHackernews wrote: post #216
arkensaw wrote: post #13

In case anyone is confused > Using .NET MAUI, you can develop apps that can run on Android, iOS, macOS, and Windows from a single shared code-base. This new development adds Linux and Browser to that list. I recently tried out .NET MAUI to see how easy it was to build a hello world app. It was quite messy getting it setup on Mac but eventually I got a simple hello world app working. Nice to use XAML again after all t…

Is it like Flutter?

Is Flutter like WPF?

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Post by johnuterry »

Building MAUI with Binding/Layout/Themes on top of another engine with Binding/Layout/Themes doesn't sound efficient.

Plus, it is my assumption/understanding that there's no way 3rd party controls will be able to run on Linux/Browser unless they're built directly against MAUI API without any Native our Skia dependencies, which is almost never the case from the libraries I've been using.

Am I right?

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Post by pshirshov »

davey48016 wrote: post #237
pshirshov wrote: post #224

Finally, finally, I can use something apart from Kotlin Multiplatform and Electron to build slow alien-looking applications with annoying animations and phone-styled UX for Linux (and, let me guess, there is no native Wayland backend). Of course the set of widgets is comprehensive - there are button and checkboxes, what else might we need. I'm wondering why all the demos of modern UI toolkits look and feel worse than…

Avalonia does not have a Wayland backend now, but they say it's a priority: https://avaloniaui.net/blog/bringing-wayland-support-to-aval... I'm sure there's a better place to track the progress on that.

If I remember correctly, it's a priority for like 5 years or so.

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Post by oaiey »

pathartl wrote: post #249
oaiey wrote: post #183

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I agree. For Blazor there is hope. It is standard based (web assembly, HTML, css) and it feels very intuitive particularly when compared to other spa frameworks like react. Also you can reuse all your html, css and design systems you have. Which is huge because like that it hooks up with the whole web development stack.

For as much crap as MS gets, the entire ASP.NET Core stack is an oasis.

Most of .NET is.

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Post by gr4vityWall »

PKop wrote: post #243
gr4vityWall wrote: post #210

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> Qt also seems to be a good option I think Qt really is 'just' missing more language bindings, and a better hot reload story for more people to use it. Lots of devs (specially Free Software devs) would prefer to use native toolkits, if the prototyping experience was similar to how Vite is for web frontend stuff, I think Qt would be used a lot more.

They are building more language bindings to back QML frontends https://www.qt.io/qt-bridges

Thanks for sharing. I hope that initiative goes well. And again, integration with whatever solution the language has for hot reloading is a must these days for UI development.
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