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My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by rkomorn »

Tagbert wrote: post #137
asdff wrote: post #104

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At the distance I look at my TV screen (about 7 feet from the couch) I can't make out the pixels of the 1080p screen. 4k is lost on me. 2020 vision but I guess that is not enough.

Resolution is much less important for video than it is for text and user interfaces.

This is exactly why I went to 4K.

Used to have a 27" 2560x1440 monitor at home. Got a 4K 27" at work, and when I got home, the difference was big enough that I (eventually) decided to upgrade the home monitor.

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Post by tuyiown »

throw93944i48 wrote: post #224
ekianjo wrote: post #207

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> $3K for a computer isn't going to be anywhere near the top of the list. That says a lot about the community you live in.

The "mac community" is even worse. I recently spend $4k on linux laptop, and I get endless criticism, that it is "too expensive" for a "windows pc". I need spec for my work, and comparable mac is 4x more expensive!

Maxed out a mbp, I couldn’t get more than a bit than 8k. And comparable is probably generous.

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Post by rkomorn »

PhilipRoman wrote: post #250
daymanstep wrote: post #83

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120Hz is absolutely a noticeable improvement over 60Hz. I have a 60Hz iPhone and a 120Hz iPhone and the 60Hz one is just annoying to use. Everything feels so choppy.

I believe refresh rate/FPS is one of those things where it doesn't really matter but human eyes get spoiled by the higher standard, making it hard to go back. I never saw issues with 30 FPS until going to 60, etc. Hopefully I never get a glimpse of 120 or 144Hz, which would require me to throw out all existing devices.

Best take in this thread.

The jump forward doesn't even necessarily feel that huge but the step backward is (annoyingly) noticeable.

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Post by tuyiown »

RossBencina wrote: post #204
biinjo wrote: post #197

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That reasoning does not make any sense. I spend $3-4k on a MBP and run it till it fall apart, usually 5-7 years later.

I reckon it makes some sense for Apple users . You have to be willing (and financially able) to upgrade when Apple says. Apple forcefully obsoletes their products way too quickly to be a viable option if you care about longevity[0]. I have five excellent-condition still-perfectly-working Apple products next to me, none of which have current operating system support from Apple. [0] EDIT: for reference, my previous Thi…

14 years as your main driver ? Because that what we’re talking about.

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Post by thordenmark »

asdff wrote: post #71
LeoPanthera wrote: post #28

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Historically, traditional matte screen finishes exhibited poor optical qualities by scattering ambient light, which tended to wash out colors. This scattering process also affected the light from individual pixels, causing it to refract into neighboring pixels. This reduced overall image quality and caused pixel-fine details, such as small text, to appear smeary on high-density LCDs. In contrast, well-designed glossy…

I used to have a 2006 macbook pro with the matte screen. It was glorious. None of these issues were present or really noticeable. Maybe you'd notice it in lab setting but not irl. Kind of like 120hz and 4k; just useless to most peoples eyes at the distances people actually use these devices. I've only owned matte external monitors as well and again, no issues there. The glossy era macbooks otoh have been a disaster i…

For professional graphic designers, cinematographers, photographers, and illustrators these subtleties in the screen is a big deal.

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Post by barrenko »

christophilus wrote: post #145
accrual wrote: post #10

> My ideal MacBook would probably be a MacBook Air, but with the nano-texture display! :) I agree on the nano-texture display having used one in person for a little bit. It's sort of like an ultra fine matte texture that isn't noticable while using it, but is noticable compared to other devices in the same room. I hope it becomes a more standard option on future devices. That said, I've used Thinkpads with matte disp…

I’d love an air with a high density display. My mom has an M1 air, and its resolution is not great. Everything looks a bit blurry compared with my 4K Dell XPS my wife’s MacBook Pro m4 display. I guess the air’s native resolution means it has to do fractional scaling.

What is going on with the Dells recently?

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Post by chii »

veqq wrote: post #48
flyinglizard wrote: post #15

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There’s an awesome app called Vivid which just opens the HDR max brightness. I use it all the time with my M3 Pro when working outside and I believe it also works on earlier models.

People have to pay money to change screen brightness on a Mac?!

I imagine what those custom brightness apps do is not magically increase the brightness, but change the various pixels' brightness in accordance to some method/algorithm such that you see what appears to be brighter whites when placed next to certain other colors.

It's not what is implied by the parent post - where the mac is limiting the brightness only to have the app unlock it.

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Post by theshackleford »

throw93944i48 wrote: post #224
ekianjo wrote: post #207

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> $3K for a computer isn't going to be anywhere near the top of the list. That says a lot about the community you live in.

The "mac community" is even worse. I recently spend $4k on linux laptop, and I get endless criticism, that it is "too expensive" for a "windows pc". I need spec for my work, and comparable mac is 4x more expensive!

Is this 16,000 dollar laptop in the room with us now?

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Post by skylurk »

Tagbert wrote: post #158
kome wrote: post #49

i'll never understand picky preferences about monitors... i still use an LG flatron wide that's old enough to vote... and when i slack at the apple store, it's not like i notice some life-or-death difference. a monitor is a monitor. ok, i guess for graphic designers it might matter more?

Or people who read text.

Some old LCD displays were quite crisp. Sure, you can see individual pixels. The mouse tail has a clear zig-zag. But I find these nice on the eyes in their own way. I suspect because eyes autofocus more easily.

New super high-res displays are also nice on my eyes. The displays in between, those from the last decade or so, have been hit or miss for me.

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