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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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No, these are US$3500 fridges.

$3500 is about 1/3 of the cost of a "rich person" fridge.

There's quite a spectrum of richness. I think my fridge cost US$100 used. This new 199-liter model costs US$280 new: https://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/heladera-philco-top-mount-ci...

So US$3500 is 12 times the cost of a poor-person fridge (excluding used fridges and "oh, I just go over to my mom's house") and ⅓ the cost of your rich-person fridge, which puts it much closer to the latter.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Wolfgang Puck or Gordon Ramsay has a custom walk-in fridge that cost a lot more than US$10k.

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I had a Samsung phone a few years ago. It had the usual un-removable crap that Android phones have, but it wasn’t bad otherwise.

Mid range samsung phone here, great performance but even with their keyboard disabled on a non-rooted phone it still copies your clipboard on every copy/paste. I will be buying something else next time.

“Copies” meaning sends clipboard contents to Samsung? That’s not cool.

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8 years is pretty good. I personally like Bosch. Is a fridge with an icemaker not always problematic? How about biofilm? What is the advantage of an inductive stove? Will they even work in the US? I think in Europe they work with 360 V if I remember right. I realized two things: 1. You can cook nearly everything with a ricecooker. Just throw everything inside. Yes, even the minced meat on top. 2. An airfrier is bette…

> What is the advantage of an inductive stove? That you can control temperature changes better than with a ceramic hob, on par with methane stoves. > I think in Europe they work with 360 V No, normal 230V (or 220V)

Actually, I was (partly) right. In Germany, they run with 400 V, I just googled it.

Never heard of this. I though 360 with 3 phases.

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What if your fridge could do an AI thing and the groceries to refill itself would just arrive? Could be a fantastic way to control your diet by only buying foods that satiated/goal oriented you approved (as opposed to hungry you walking down aisles of product placements in the grocery store)

Why do you need a fridge to do that? An AI agent with access to your Instacart account could do it. If you only buy groceries with that it knows roughly how many calories it purchased and you should've consumed since the last order.

I'd rather my fridge observe there are no apples, than to just assume N apples have been eaten. Especially relevant once you make if a family of 4, not an individual.

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This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

I got another way of looking at it: it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years, because in that time the tech itself can and does improve a lot.

Ready example is my aunt: a very good and expensive Miele washing machine, that was made to last as things were before. But now 10 years have elapsed and modern washers come with bigger drums, much lower noises, optimized water and electricity usages, and more effective washing patterns.

But she's stuck with her old and trusty one, because she feels that it's working "like new". And she's not wrong, it works well, so it became a sort of a "golden cuff" so to speak (not knowing any better metaphor). So good and expensive, that now getting rid of it for a new one feels like a waste of money for not much gain.

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3 phase is 380V

Three phase consumer induction stoves are approximately 0% of the consumer induction stove market.

My understanding is that many of them can be wired as 1, 2 or 3 phase at least in Nordic countries, though admittedly the ones which allow 3 are somewhat rarer especially when looking at stove top-only models (not combined stove+oven).

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Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

Maybe we need a new boots theory: The rich person buys a $3500 pair of boots that comes with surveillance, useless AI, and bricks itself on the next firmware update. The poor person buys a pair of boots, that are... boots.

It's hard to make the right boots analogy (try it yourself if you think you can), but to speak of fridges

• The rich person's remodeller (or the developer of the house they buy) buys a commercial-kitchen prep fridge for the house's kitchen. This is a big, powerful, durable, repairable, no-frills, utilitarian fridge, that could be viewed as attractive or ugly depending on your opinion on brutalism. The rich person never sees this fridge. It's kept in the butler's pantry and only their private chef ever touches it.

• The rich person's interior designer then buys an elegant/classy half-sized in-wall glass-door fridge to live in the kitchen itself. This is intended for the rich person's household staff to keep constantly stocked with snacks and drinks for the rich person to grab. (Also, if the rich person thinks they want to cook one day, the staff will prep the exact ingredients needed in advance, keeping them in the butler's pantry until called for, but will then stage any "must stay cold" ingredients here.) This fridge is generally a piece of shit, made with huge markups by companies that make fancy-house furniture. But it sure is pretty! If (when) it fails, the staff can temporarily revert to just serving the role of that fridge, running to the butler's-pantry fridge or other cold-storage area (maybe a walk-in!) when the rich person wants something. (Also compare/contrast: in-wall wine cooler.)

• The rich person's household staff might respond to the rich person's request for more convenient access to snacks/drinks in certain areas of the house by buying + keeping stocked one or more minifridges. There'll certainly be one in the house's bar. (There's always a bar.) These are sturdy commercial-grade bricks, built by the same companies that build the ones that go into hotels; but these companies serve rich people just as often as they serve hotels, so they tend to have an up-market marque that makes the fridge look fancy while reusing the well-engineered core.

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8 years is pretty good. I personally like Bosch. Is a fridge with an icemaker not always problematic? How about biofilm? What is the advantage of an inductive stove? Will they even work in the US? I think in Europe they work with 360 V if I remember right. I realized two things: 1. You can cook nearly everything with a ricecooker. Just throw everything inside. Yes, even the minced meat on top. 2. An airfrier is bette…

> What is the advantage of an inductive stove? That you can control temperature changes better than with a ceramic hob, on par with methane stoves. > I think in Europe they work with 360 V No, normal 230V (or 220V)

A few other advantages to induction:

1. Better air quality. You don't have combustion byproducts in the kitchen.

2. More efficient than both gas and conventional electric stoves.

3. Faster to heat than gas/conventional electric (due to the efficiency improvement)

4. Easier to clean (except for glass top stoves).

I've yet to own a full-on induction stove, but I do regularly use the 120V induction hot plates in my kitchen. In fact, I use them more than the gas stove that came with my house. I'm eagerly awaiting the day that I have a full induction stove.

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Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

I got another way of looking at it: it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years, because in that time the tech itself can and does improve a lot. Ready example is my aunt: a very good and expensive Miele washing machine, that was made to last as things were before. But now 10 years have elapsed and modern washers come with bigger drums, much lower noises, optimized water and electricity usages, and more ef…

That one is sunk cost, I think golden handcuffs are for highly compensated employment.
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