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Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by boston_clone »

heavyset_go wrote: post #225
boston_clone wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

does it similarly make you sad if your operating system tells you to update for new security patches or indicators? the sheer volume of browser exploits - including in-the-wild exploited zero-click zero days - is frankly insane. intentionally leaving yourself unprotected is a bad choice that should be shoved back in your face, often. > i see it everywhere. i see it nowhere. update your software! and don't use chrome.

That's just the generic Cloudflare blocking warning. You can use an up to date browser and if they decide to block you, you will see that message.

could you reference something from cloudflare to substantiate that?

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by boston_clone »

fsckboy wrote: post #139
boston_clone wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

does it similarly make you sad if your operating system tells you to update for new security patches or indicators? the sheer volume of browser exploits - including in-the-wild exploited zero-click zero days - is frankly insane. intentionally leaving yourself unprotected is a bad choice that should be shoved back in your face, often. > i see it everywhere. i see it nowhere. update your software! and don't use chrome.

they were not informing him of an insecurity. and software monoculture is widely considered a security threat, and so by pushing software monoculture, you yourself are pushing to weaken internet security. GP should potentially be applauded (if he's not using for example IE6)

i’m genuinely fascinated by your thought process here.

how did we go from “update your software; don’t use chrome” to “you are pushing software monoculture and weakening internet security”?

as for “they were not informing him of an insecurity”, this seems to be deliberately obtuse. virtually every major browser includes (and references in their release notes!) fixes for vulnerabilities in stable version updates.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by michaelhoney »

rtpg wrote: post #244
throwworhtthrow wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same week that WaPo announced their new editorial policy, I added a uBlock Origin rule to delete the opinion sidebar. It's basically ads run by Jeff Bezos now. There's no reason to expose oneself to it. Their news reporting is, for now, still decent (and retains its familiar slant).

The editorial section is really embarrassing. It wasn't really great before but now so many "Editorial Board" pieces are some of the most fact-free power-praising pieces. I rolled my eyes at the "democracy dies in darkness" stuff but that was at least something. It's fun to jump into the comments, they added voting to the comments and Wapo editorials are really not coming off well.

We have a similar, Murdoch-owned newspaper, The Australian. The news is actually OK, but the editorials and the choice of front-page headlines are some of the most tendentious conservative bullshit you can imagine.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by heavyset_go »

boston_clone wrote: post #251
heavyset_go wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just the generic Cloudflare blocking warning. You can use an up to date browser and if they decide to block you, you will see that message.

could you reference something from cloudflare to substantiate that?

Browse the web with Tor via an up-to-date Firefox. You will run into this page over and over again. Speaking from experience, don't feel like looking it up on CF's docs.

edit: Just ran into the same page on Chromium 141.0.7390.122 without Tor or a VPN, but with NoScript, JShelter, and uBlock extensions enabled. It looks like JShelter + NoScript can trigger it.

This is the page you get:

> Your browser is out of date. Update your browser to view this site properly.

> Click here for more information

The last line links here: https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-challenges/#bro...

Suggests to me if certain challenges fail, or give results in a certain distribution, you'll see that page.

Disabling JShelter and allowing JS lets me use the site properly.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by pyuser583 »

davisr wrote: post #3

If you think this kind of reporting is cool, you should donate to https://fair.org . Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) has been exposing two-faced news for decades. They are worthy of your attention.

Fair has its own issues - or did last I checked which was a while ago.

They used to claim reporters were biased towards the right. That used to be a left-wing claim, but it’s no longer credible. Something like 90% of reporters are left-wing.

Maybe they’ve reformed, and aren’t in the business of providing partisan talking points anymore.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by xp84 »

> The decision to cancel the Harris editorial led to more than 300,000 cancellations by digital subscribers.

This is what it’s really (still) about. Partisans are mad that the publisher of this paper didn’t let them rubber-stamp Team Blue - regardless of the incredibly deep flaws of the candidate[1]. Note that not endorsing Harris didn’t mean endorsing the also deeply flawed and corrupt Trump.

I voted for neither of those hacks and endorsing either would have been an embarrassment.

[1] coronating a nominee - without a primary - who was known to be so deeply disliked by so vast a majority of the Democratic voters that she had dropped out of the 2020 race before Iowa should have been a huge red flag to anyone.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by samtp »

mhb wrote: post #102

I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust. https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

So a proud 2 time Trump voted says that NRP lost America's trust because they attacked Trump too many times to a new outlet founded by Bari Weiss? Then after resigning from NPR goes on to work for that same outlet?

Forgive me if I find his opinion and the article useless.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by coliveira »

rtpg wrote: post #246
mmooss wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you see the WSJ as not biased, when it's owned by Murdoch, who openly interferes in and biases Fox News, as has been demonstrated numerous times including in massive losses in court. Do you think Murdoch wouldn't do that at the WSJ? With that signal and the editorial page, I think it's wishful thinking to think the rest isn't biased - people just don't want to lose that institution. Much can be done without th…

The core idea with this stuff is you can know about the bias and read with that in mind. You can treat even the facts with doubts, and understanding that the descriptions used can be influenced by what the writers believe. You can come away and consciously say "I know nothing more about the world than I did before reading this article, except for what Murdoch thinks about this". And sometimes you'll see something tha…

These newspapers manipulate not just with opinion, but also with the selection of what to focus on. They want you to care about certain things and not to know or even hear about others. It is a game of molding perceptions daily.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by mhb »

samtp wrote: post #257
mhb wrote: post #102

I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust. https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

So a proud 2 time Trump voted says that NRP lost America's trust because they attacked Trump too many times to a new outlet founded by Bari Weiss? Then after resigning from NPR goes on to work for that same outlet? Forgive me if I find his opinion and the article useless.

You don't seem to have refuted anything he has written.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Post by rkomorn »

saulpw wrote: post #222
rkomorn wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world's poorest man probably has tens millions of peers within an order of magnitude of "poorness". The world's richest man has at most a few hundred.

Exact numbers as of today: Elon Musk has $500b. 32 other people have at least $50b. 827 people have at least $5b.

So I overestimated a few hundred, and it's actually a few dozens.
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