Migrating from AWS to Hetzner

Post by sergioisidoro » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:25 PM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #122

sergioisidoro wrote: post #86

I really liked Hetzner but I got burned by one issue. I had some personal projects running there and the payment method failed. Automated email communications also failed among so much spam and email notifications I receive, and when I noticed the problem they had wiped all my data without possibility of recovery. It was a wake up moment for me about keeping billing in shape, but also made me understand that a cloud…

> It was a wake up moment for me about keeping billing in shape It should be a wake up moment about keeping backups as well.

Post by kitd » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:27 PM UTC

radu_floricica wrote: post #215

rightbyte wrote: post #159

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What is old is new again. My employer is so conservative and slow that they are forerunning this Local Cloud Edge Our Basement thing by just not doing anything.

> What is old is new again. Over the years I tried occasionally to look into cloud, but it never made sense. A lot of complexity and significantly higher cost, for very low performance and a promise of "scalability". You virtually never need scalability so fast that you don't have time to add another server - and at baremetal costs, you're usually about a year ahead of the curve anyways.

Post by PeterStuer » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:28 PM UTC

ep103 wrote: post #223

radu_floricica wrote: post #215

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> What is old is new again. Over the years I tried occasionally to look into cloud, but it never made sense. A lot of complexity and significantly higher cost, for very low performance and a promise of "scalability". You virtually never need scalability so fast that you don't have time to add another server - and at baremetal costs, you're usually about a year ahead of the curve anyways.

The benefit of cloud has always been that it allows the company to trade capex for opex. From an engineering perspective, it trades scalability for complexity, but this is a secondary effect compared to the former tradeoff.

Post by matt-p » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:28 PM UTC

codethief wrote: post #87

lisperforlife wrote: post #11

I think you can get much farther with dedicated servers. I run a couple of nodes on Hetzner. The performance you get from a dedicated machine even if it is a 3 year old machine that you can get on server auction is absolutely bonkers and cannot be compared to VMs. The thing is that most of the server hardware is focused towards high core count, low clock speed processors that optimize for I/O rather than compute. It…

> I would love to know if they are any north-american (particularly canadian) companies that can compete with price and the quality of service like Hetzner FWIW, Hetzner has two data centers in the US, in case you're just looking for "Hetzner quality but in the US", not for "American/Canadian companies similar to Hetzner".

Post by radiator » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:29 PM UTC

ep103 wrote: post #223

radu_floricica wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What is old is new again. Over the years I tried occasionally to look into cloud, but it never made sense. A lot of complexity and significantly higher cost, for very low performance and a promise of "scalability". You virtually never need scalability so fast that you don't have time to add another server - and at baremetal costs, you're usually about a year ahead of the curve anyways.

The benefit of cloud has always been that it allows the company to trade capex for opex. From an engineering perspective, it trades scalability for complexity, but this is a secondary effect compared to the former tradeoff.