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Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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random3 wrote: post #213
DennisP wrote: post #23

I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

I'm not really following through your reasoning. How is breaking the usefulness helping the revenue stream? Assuming you're an engineer, have you thought about what handing over a "window" from one computer to another actually entails? CRIU can do checkpoint/restore at container/process level - but you actually want it to run on both, no? So you need to split off just the I/O, but at the OS-level per window. Apple ha…

Sending multiple windows over screensharing actually seems easier than sending the desktop to me - because you only look at one window at once, the rest don't have to update at full frame rate, or at all.

And it's easier and more power-efficient (because of hardware video encoding) to use screen sharing instead of sending drawing commands etc.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by astrange »

casey2 wrote: post #83
cubefox wrote: post #35

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Speaking of which, Apple could probably support Mac apps on modern iPhones if you plug it into an external monitor. I assume they aren't doing it because it would cannibalize their laptop market.

Not probably, definitely. Nobody wants that of course because it would mean hiring real developers over friends/family. A19 pro is already faster than modern desktop chips let alone something from a few years ago. Almost all their mac software was designed for much more modest machines.

The fast-ness of the CPU is not the only problem. The rest of the hardware of the phone is designed to be a phone, not a Mac.

The battery will discharge faster than it charges, the flash storage will wear out, etc etc.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by astrange »

spogbiper wrote: post #163
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #46

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I had a quest 2, but it was always blurry for me. Something wrong with my eyes, idk. I've wanted to try a Bigscreen Beyond with custom lens inserts, but too much money to invest on something that might not work out.

i usually wear contacts, and the quest 2 was always a bit blurry. one day i randomly was wearing my glasses and sort of forced the headset on over them and i was blow away by how much clearer it was. outside of that case I see about the same wearing contacts vs glasses. i never got around to trying prescription inserts but i suspect they would be ideal

Contacts should work best of all (lens inserts make the space a bit cramped in there), but if it matters you need distance correction instead of nearsighted correction, or whatever the term is.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by xattt »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #30
mapontosevenths wrote: post #15

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I have one. I use it primarily for keeping my drawer full. That said, it's AMAZING as a home theater replacement, other than an issue with internal reflections in the optics. So in dark scenes it gets a bit annoying. If I lived in an apartment, I would absolutely use it in place of a large TV that eats up a lot of my space. Especially coupled with the airpods MAX and spatial audio. Watching a 4k 3d movie in it is min…

Do you never entertain guests with your home theater system? I believe you when you say that it could replace the experience for yourself, but, at least for me, hosting with my home theater is the main driver for improving it.

Netflix and chill with a single headset while having a prospective partner over just isn’t the same.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by astrange »

bombcar wrote: post #70
outside2344 wrote: post #64

$3499??? Is anyone actually buying this?

The reaction from the ATP guys is a solid "meh"; apparently it's pretty well done and nice, but not really "worth it." And one of them bought a fully-loaded Mac Pro, so they're not immune to the Apple Distortion Field.

The one who buys the Mac Pros is not the big spender; that would be the one who won't stop talking about his vacation homes and mechanical watch collection.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by supportengineer »

kibwen wrote: post #229
gjm11 wrote: post #135

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I'm sure you felt very clever writing that zinger about children and parents, but unless the majority of Apple devices are sold to/for children -- which I would bet is extremely not true -- it's obviously wrong.

You have deftly avoided attempting to refute the actual argument here, which is that >90% of Apple's revenue comes from their walled garden, and they have no desire to pivot back towards catering to the small and dwindling niche of power users.

If your primary machine isn't a high-end Macbook Pro, are you even a "power user"?

Any other hardware is a non-starter.

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