You've got to be a complete moron uploading your gov ID to discord
Are you seriously blaming kids and teenagers (who spend their free time on Discord) because they are not smart enough to know better and form communities elsewhere? You can do better than victim blame, and instead point the finger at Discord and whoever told the British government that delegating ID control to third-parties was a good idea.
Discord says 70k users may have had their government IDs leaked in breach
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also wish open-source communities would move off of Discord for another reason: Users are limited to joining a maximum of 100 servers. I've hit the cap and it's driving me crazy. It's really easy to hit it since each friend group, hobby group, gaming community, and open-source community often all have their own servers.
I can barely keep up with 6 semi active discord servers, each with tens of semi active channels... Much less think about doing it with hundreds. More power to you, must have figured out a good notification scheme
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#253I don't know if I just became cynical and jaded, but is this really surprising to anyone in any way? Any time I give out my personal information to anyone for any reason, I basically treat it as 'any member of public can now access it'. Even if a service doesn't have it in their TOS that they sell it to 3rd parties, they might do it anyway, or there will, sooner or later, be a breach of their poorly secured system. T…
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#254I don't know if I just became cynical and jaded, but is this really surprising to anyone in any way? Any time I give out my personal information to anyone for any reason, I basically treat it as 'any member of public can now access it'. Even if a service doesn't have it in their TOS that they sell it to 3rd parties, they might do it anyway, or there will, sooner or later, be a breach of their poorly secured system. T…
The real, long term answer to all this consists in having less of our lives in digital presence, that even means less digital government thingies and, yes, less payments and other money-related issues being handled online.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't seem like they did. From the original article I referenced earlier: One of Discord’s third-party customer service providers was compromised by an “unauthorized party,” the company says. [...] The unauthorized party “did not gain access to Discord directly.”
The third party company shouldn't ever need to see the IDs, either. Same issue.
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't particularly blame any one corporation, this is a systemic issue of governments not having/not enforcing serious security measures Wrong, governments caused the issue because they demand customers to ID themselves. There exists not a single viable security measure aside from not collecting the data. Government is also not able to propose any security measures. Unlikely that the data will ever be deleted now…
No, governments caused the issue by demanding customers to ID themselves, while failing to provide the necessary tooling for doing so in a secure manor. There's really only a few countries in the world who can provide the services needed to make this work. On top of my head, Estonia, Sweden and Denmark (there's probably others).
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#257I don't know if I just became cynical and jaded, but is this really surprising to anyone in any way? Any time I give out my personal information to anyone for any reason, I basically treat it as 'any member of public can now access it'. Even if a service doesn't have it in their TOS that they sell it to 3rd parties, they might do it anyway, or there will, sooner or later, be a breach of their poorly secured system. T…
It doesn't even need to be poorly secured. The oldest form of hacking is social engineering. If a company is storing valuable enough information, all one needs to do is compel the lowest common denominator with access to it to intentionally or inadvertently provide access.
You can try to create all the sort loopholes and redundancies but in general the reality is that no system is ever going to be truly secure. Another reality is that many of the people with the greatest level of access will not be technical by nature. For instance apparently the DNC hacks were carried out by a textbook phishing email - 'You've like totally been hacked, click on this anonymizer link to leads to Goog1e.com so we can confirm your identity.'
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#258Companies usually promise that the ID would be used only for validation and then immediately deleted. How so many IDs could leak then? They verify millions of IDs per month?
The Discord message (in Australia at least) specifically says: The information you provide is only used to confirm your age group, then it's deleted Refer screenshot: https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/1nkrxcp/discord... I can still swipe the message away, so I haven't done it yet. I'm going to work out how I can fake the face scan. I ain't sending Government ID to some chat app (no matter how big or small)…
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the example you give there is no needed provision to store the id or all information in the document. Only extracting the date of birth, name and document number is sufficient. Yes I know this a utopia and it won't happen. Edit: afaik storing the photo is only needed in medical cases to alternatively asses having the correct person. Bit much for something simple as age verification.
This breach is them being irresponsible with customer support software. In the case of automated age verification, the providers say that nothing identifiable gets stored and they might be lying but it’s feasible that you could run that service the way they say they do. This breach is about the manual alternative to that, where you can appeal to Discord customer support if the automated thing says you’re not the righ…
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#260[1] https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/30326565624343...