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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by saurik »

mlrtime wrote: post #246
beeflet wrote: post #197

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If you buy apple products, work for the company or own its stock then you are financially facilitating this. I don't know who you are and I don't care, I am just saying this is the basic cause and effect. Things cannot improve unless stakeholders use their levers to change or abandon the company.

I do 2/3 of those things and have no problem with what Apple is doing. There is no universal right side in this. This being a top comment here doesn't make it true.

FWIW, if you have no problem with what Apple is doing--and a lot of people might not: they might even actively cheer Apple on if they went out of their way to help ICE... not my jam, but a lot of people want to simultaneously be anti-ICE or anti-Trump and pro-Apple--then I don't think my comment becomes "untrue": the point simply would have no serious effect on you, as I guess you are simply OK being "complicit"... today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsazo-Gs7ms.

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Post by squigz »

wstrange wrote: post #45

Reading the comments on that Fox site is depressing. A lot of hate for Apple, but for the wrong reasons (as in, completely missing the danger of centralized app stores..).

I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking comments on a Fox article are indicative of... anything, really.

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Post by tempodox »

andsoitis wrote: post #133
komali2 wrote: post #24

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Which is why people going back and forth about incentives has always driven me nuts. Attempting to make assurances based on this handle we crank called "human incentive" that may map to human behavior in the expected direction, the opposite direction, or no direction at all, is madness! We don't know. Humans are unsolved. Give me guarantees, or the closest approximation. Federation, distribution, dispersion of author…

> Give me guarantees, What’s the incentive?

Exactly. As long as this isn’t enforced by laws, it won’t happen. And then there are administrations that get away with just ignoring the law.

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Post by EasyMark »

squigz wrote: post #252
wstrange wrote: post #45

Reading the comments on that Fox site is depressing. A lot of hate for Apple, but for the wrong reasons (as in, completely missing the danger of centralized app stores..).

I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking comments on a Fox article are indicative of... anything, really.

Most smell of foreign propaganda bots or unhinged political obsessives that I've seen

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Post by sandworm101 »

fivestones wrote: post #211
sandworm101 wrote: post #39

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Ya, the pirate bay is still online, so too innumerable similar sites once targeted by various agencies. A smallish map running on a RP plugged into tor would be very resiliant. But there is a bittorent protocol that allows for rolling updates to a torrent. That would be the best way to distribute kml files imho.

What’s this updatable BitTorrent protocol? I wished for something like this years ago as an auto-updating torrent for downloading Wikipedia with live (or daily or whatever) changes.

https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html

They were called mutable torrents. A private key would allow the originator to push out updates via dhts.

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Post by sandworm101 »

goku12 wrote: post #203
sandworm101 wrote: post #151

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The vast majority of the people on this planet have never touched an iphone. Android dominates basically everywhere outside north america and, interestingly, the DPRK.

Google does the same with the rest of the population, don't they? The methods are different, but the results are the same.

Except the phones that aren't useing googles app store, such as many Chinese phones and grapheneos users.

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Post by burnt-resistor »

fearless1ron wrote: post #80
mrinterweb wrote: post #15

Google is making it so sideloading APKs on Android is no longer possible. This is one of many great reasons why that should not happen.

I agree with you, but can we stop calling installing software on the hardware you own "sideloading"?

Offline installation.
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