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Post by Terr_ »

jasonsb wrote: post #66
SirensOfTitan wrote: post #27

My pulse today is just a mediocre rehash of prior conversations I’ve had on the platform. I tried to ask GPT-5 pro the other day to just pick an ambitious project it wanted to work on, and I’d carry out whatever physical world tasks it needed me to, and all it did was just come up with project plans which were rehashes of my prior projects framed as its own. I’m rapidly losing interest in all of these tools. It feels…

> I’m rapidly losing interest in all of these tools. It feels like blockchain again in a lot of weird ways. It doesn't feel like blockchain at all. Blockchain is probably the most useless technology ever invented (unless you're a criminal or an influencer who makes ungodly amounts of money off of suckers). AI is a powerful tool for those who are willing to put in the work. People who have the time, knowledge and crit…

> the most useless technology

Side-rant pet-peeve: People who try to rescue the reputation of "Blockchain" as a promising way forward by saying its weaknesses go away once you do a "private blockchain."

This is equivalent to claiming the self-balancing Segway vehicles are still the future, they just need to be "improved even more" by adding another set of wheels, an enclosed cabin, and disabling the self-balancing feature.

Congratulations, you've backtracked back to a classic [distributed database / car].

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Post by labrador »

rchaud wrote: post #160
labrador wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't wake up and start talking to my phone. I make myself breakfast/coffee and sit down in front of my window on the world and start exploring it. I like the old internet, not the curated walled gardens of phone apps.

Plenty of people open Reels or Tiktok the second they wake up. Mobile means notifications, and of you see one as soon as you turn off the alarm, you're more likely to open the app.

> Plenty of people open Reels or Tiktok the second they wake up

Yikes, that would be a nightmarish way to start my day. I like to wake up and orient myself to the world before I start engaging with it. I often ponder dreams I woke up with to ask myself what they might mean. What you describe sounds like a Black Mirror episode to me where your mind isn't even your own and you never really wake up.

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Post by grayhatter »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #237
mym1990 wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sooo you launched https://sibylline.dev/ , which looks like a bunch of AI slop, then spun up a bunch of GitHub repos, seeded them with more AI slop, and tout that you're shipping 500,000 lines of code? I'll pass on this data point.

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I mean, you're slinging insults so it's hard for me agree he's the toxic person in this conversation...

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Post by brooke2k »

simianwords wrote: post #173
SirensOfTitan wrote: post #27

My pulse today is just a mediocre rehash of prior conversations I’ve had on the platform. I tried to ask GPT-5 pro the other day to just pick an ambitious project it wanted to work on, and I’d carry out whatever physical world tasks it needed me to, and all it did was just come up with project plans which were rehashes of my prior projects framed as its own. I’m rapidly losing interest in all of these tools. It feels…

> It feels like blockchain again in a lot of weird ways. Every time I keep seeing this brought up I wonder if people truly mean this or its just something people say but don't mean. AI is obviously different and extremely useful.. I mean it has convinced a butt load of people to pay for the subscription. Every one I know including the non technical ones use it and some of them pay for it, and it didn't even require a…

"It has convinced a bunch of people to spend money" is also true of blockchain, so I don't know if that's a good argument to differentiate the two.

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Post by DenisM »

ip26 wrote: post #238
anon-3988 wrote: post #38

LLMs are increasingly part of intimate conversations. That proximity lets them learn how to manipulate minds. We must stop treating humans as uniquely mysterious. An unfettered market for attention and persuasion will encourage people to willingly harm their own mental lives. Think social medias are bad now? Children exposed to personalized LLMs will grow up inside many tiny, tailored realities. In a decade we may me…

It doesn't have to be that way of course. You could envision an LLM whose "paperclip" is coaching you to become a great "xyz". Record every minute of your day, including your conversations. Feed it to the LLM. It gives feedback on what you did wrong, refuses to be your social outlet, and demands you demonstrate learning in the next day before it rewards with more attention. Basically, a fanatically devoted life coach…

Have you tried building this with prepromts? That would be interesting!

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Post by achierius »

ip26 wrote: post #238
anon-3988 wrote: post #38

LLMs are increasingly part of intimate conversations. That proximity lets them learn how to manipulate minds. We must stop treating humans as uniquely mysterious. An unfettered market for attention and persuasion will encourage people to willingly harm their own mental lives. Think social medias are bad now? Children exposed to personalized LLMs will grow up inside many tiny, tailored realities. In a decade we may me…

It doesn't have to be that way of course. You could envision an LLM whose "paperclip" is coaching you to become a great "xyz". Record every minute of your day, including your conversations. Feed it to the LLM. It gives feedback on what you did wrong, refuses to be your social outlet, and demands you demonstrate learning in the next day before it rewards with more attention. Basically, a fanatically devoted life coach…

If that were truly the LLM's "paperclip", then how far would it be willing to go? Would it engage in cyber-crime to surreptitiously smooth your path? Would it steal? Would it be willing to hurt other people?

What if you no longer want to be a great "xyz"? What if you decide you want to turn it off (which would prevent it from following through on its goal)?

"The market" is not magic. "The challenge is the incentives" sounds good on paper but in practice, given the current state of ML research, is about as useful to us as saying "the challenge is getting the right weights".

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Post by contrariety »

lxgr wrote: post #243
fbxio wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever your mind believes it doesn’t need to hold on to that what is expensive to maintain and run, it’ll let go of. This isn’t entirely accurate from a neuroscience perspective but it’s kinda ballpark. Pretty much like muscles decay when we stop using them.

Sure, but sticking with that analogy, bicycles haven’t caused the muscles of people that used to go for walks and runs to atrophy either – they now just go much longer distances in the same time, with less joint damage and more change in scenery :)

To extend the analogy further, people who replace all their walking and other impact exercises with cycling tend to end up with low bone density and then have a much higher risk of broken legs when they get older.

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Post by achierius »

halamadrid wrote: post #124
neutronicus wrote: post #98

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If the model companies are serious about demonstrating the models' coding chops, slopping out a gmail competitor would be a pretty compelling proof of concept.

Code is probably just 20% effort. There is so much more after that. Like manage the infra around it and the reliability when it scales, and even things like managing SPAM and preventing abuse. And the effort required to market it and make it something people want to adopt.

Those are still largely code-able. You can write Ansible files, deploy AWS (mostly) via the shell, write rules for spam filtering and administration... Google has had all of that largely automated for a long time now.

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Post by troupo »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #148
shafyy wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lines of codes is not a measure of anything meaningful on its own. The mere fact that you suggest this as prove that you are more productive makes me think you are not.

The SWE industry is eagerly awaiting your proposed accurate metric. I find that people who dismiss LoC out of hand without supplying better metrics tend to be low performers trying to run for cover.

> The SWE industry is eagerly awaiting your proposed accurate metric.

There are none. All are various variant of bad. LoC is probably the worst metric of all. Because it says nothing about quality, or features, or number of products shipped. It's also the easiest metric to game. Just write GoF-style Java, and you're off to the races. Don't forget to have a source code license at the beginning of every file. Boom. LoC.

The only metrics that barely work are:

- features delivered per unit of time. Requires an actual plan for the product, and an understanding that some features will inevitably take a long time

- number of bugs delivered per unit of time. This one is somewhat inversely correlated with LoC and features, by the way: the fewer lines of code and/or features, the fewer bugs

- number of bugs fixed per unit of time. The faster bugs are fixed the better

None of the other bullshit works.

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Post by wiml »

svachalek wrote: post #103
jasonsb wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Objectively. I’m now tackling tasks I wouldn’t have even considered two or three years ago, but the biggest breakthrough has been overcoming procrastination. When AI handles over 50% of the work, there’s a 90% chance I’ll finish the entire task faster than it would normally take me just to get started on something new.

I don't think it's helped me do anything I couldn't do, in fact I've learned it's far easier to do hard things myself than trying to prompt an AI out of the ditches it will dig trying to do it. But I also find it's great for getting painful and annoying tasks out of the way that I really can't motivate to do myself.

I think there might be cases, for some people or some tasks, where the difficulty of filling in a blank page is greater than the difficulty of fixing an entire page of errors. Even if you have to do all the same mental work, it feels like a different category of work.
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