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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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You can read up about the members of the Pillay commission, the "Top UN legal investigators", yourself. It is just ridiculous. Reminder that thousands of rockets rained on Israel on October 7th. Crying genocide after such an attack when your enemy retaliates and retaliates very harshly in the context of middle eastern politics will never be reasonable. Hamas is free to surrender and everything would stop tomorrow. I…

Reminder that Israel razed hundreds of Palestinian villages to the ground in 1948, and expelled half the Palestinian population from their homeland. Israel has always wanted to ethnically cleanse Palestine of the indigenous population. It has resisted any diplomatic route to a two-state solution, going as far as financing Hamas because Fatah was moving towards a peaceful resolution, and Hamas was seen as an adversary…

> Israel is quite literally built on top of the ruins of Palestinian villages

The entire region was historically Jewish. As a simple example, consider the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. It is literally built on the ruins of a Jewish temple from BC times. That is long before any Arabs lived in the area, and long before Islam was invented.

There’s also no such thing as a “Palestinian village” because there is no such identity as Palestinian in truth. There’s just Islamic Arabs who tried to take over this land and claim it is their homeland when their homeland is really elsewhere.

> It has resisted any diplomatic route to a two-state solution

There were at least 5 different offers for a two-state solution historically. The people calling themselves “Palestinian” rejected every one of those. The real reason that can be deduced from this, is that they just don’t want a Jewish state to exist anywhere in any capacity.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Combined with the other ongoing conflicts it really feels like we’re in a WW3 era

Sadly history is a very poorly studied topic. I look at European leaders and they don't seem to remember it any better.

The best way to teach history would be to make politicians dig slit trenches and then shell them for a few days. Anything less than that people will always end up regurgitating ethno nationalist bullshit or "geopolitics".

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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I can write in “free Palestine”

And it's gonna get seen by one (1) vote counter who'll then put it away/throw it in the bin

As long as it doesn’t go to a genocide enabler I could care less where my vote goes

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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The right's split thinking on this issue is largely a split down generational lines. The balance of the split is shifting as old people die. The Zionist faction of the left is almost dead already, and on the right it will still take some more years, but once that's done, America's support for Israel will have expired. I think Israel realizes they're on borrowed time, and that's why they've adopted such an overtly agg…

The support for Israel was always higher for older people, and that goes back all the way to the 70's as far as I could tell. Something about being young and impressible, captured by the Palestinian ethos, until people grow up. When you say "Going by the way of Rhodesia" do you mean Israelis will just scatter away, the remaining ones will be under constant threat of violence?

No, it's because American boomers are crazy Christians who think that they must ensure that Israel continues to exist, no matter how much evil it perpetrates, because apparently their schizo book says the existence of Israel is a prerequisite for the resurrection of their Messiah who will then usher in the Apocalypse. Old people in America don't support Israel because they're smarter or more mature, it's because they're insane retards. Young people are abandoning these American churches, and largely religion in general. They haven't been brainwashed into supporting Israel like the boomers were.

BTW, Israel going the way of Rhodesia is unavoidable. Depending on how things go, it might happen in a few years, or twenty years, but as surely as baby boomers all eventually die, so too will Israel die.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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For me, this is meaningful because for the first time a legitimate international body is calling this a genocide. Previously, it’s been activists and claims that this might be genocide. I haven’t read the report yet. But I will, and I intend to leave my mind open as to whether this raises the profile of this war in my mind relative to domestic issues.

Francesca Albanese has held the genocide line since day one as the UN special rapporteur on israel and palestine

She's hardly impartial. Her husband worked for the Palestinian Authority.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.

US sure likes israel...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saar-urges-250-...

250 us legislators had to fly there (probably paid by the taxpayers) a few days ago.

Sadly, looking at the US politics, whichever side you vote, israel wins.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.

US sure likes israel... https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saar-urges-250-... 250 us legislators had to fly there (probably paid by the taxpayers) a few days ago. Sadly, looking at the US politics, whichever side you vote, israel wins.

I agree. That’s why I won’t vote unless someone NOT funded by AIPAC is on the ballot.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Francesca Albanese has held the genocide line since day one as the UN special rapporteur on israel and palestine

She's hardly impartial. Her husband worked for the Palestinian Authority.

Wether she is or not is not for me to decide - at any rate, her analysis seems to have been absolutely spot on if we are now recognizing it is a genocide, isn't it?

And if you think the UN rapporteur is too biased to do their job correctly, why do you care what the UN does?

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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The right's split thinking on this issue is largely a split down generational lines. The balance of the split is shifting as old people die. The Zionist faction of the left is almost dead already, and on the right it will still take some more years, but once that's done, America's support for Israel will have expired. I think Israel realizes they're on borrowed time, and that's why they've adopted such an overtly agg…

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