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Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by rkomorn »

dotancohen wrote: post #245
rkomorn wrote: post #195

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You don't have to! You can just say it's imported from a language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet, so there's no canonically correct way to spell it. It's probably a lie but it doesn't sound like one!

Though Arabic has quite a few letters you won't find in the Latin alphabet, all the letters in the word shakshukah map perfectly to Latin letters. But put an H on the end, and quarter-pronounce it.

The spelling still had to be romanized. The Wikipedia page has three different spellings for it, though none match yours.

I stand by my point.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by chithanh »

hollerith wrote: post #250
chithanh wrote: post #249

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> Meat was important as a calorie source but it has many drawbacks in modern society totally unrelated to animal ethics; cancer risk, inefficient land use, methane production, etc. I think the most important drawbacks which actually threaten modern society are deforestation and zoonoses. Both can be largely avoided by raising only insects for meat, which reduces water and land use by 80%, and CO2 emissions even more…

So, it is marketing and perception problem and not because insects are objectively terrible as food for people?

In my understanding it is mostly a cultural thing that makes people reject insects. I am unaware of any objective measure by which are insects are terrible foods.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by noboostforyou »

williamdclt wrote: post #231
krapp wrote: post #190

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In this context, "European" means "white." Jesus probably did not look like the bearded white hippie commonly depicted in Western (primarily American and British) iconography. Spaniards, Egyptians, Greeks and Levantines may or may not look similar (seems a bit broad, like the geographical definition of "European") but they also don't often look like "white people." Especially not in Egypt or the Levant.

Never heard of spanish people or greeks not being considered "white".

Just because you never heard it doesn't mean it didn't happen. For example, Irish people were heavily discriminated against in the US and were considered at one point to not be "white"

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/10/06/negative-st...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by 0xffff2 »

evilduck wrote: post #242
shermantanktop wrote: post #53

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Are they not normal inside the US?

They're normal vegetables, but not normal pizza toppings. Just look at the menu offerings of any big US chain pizza place, deviating from that without warning is going to cause disappointment.

I'm from California, can't speak to the rest of the US... To me all except broccoli are perfectly normal pizza toppings. Not toppings I would expect to see on a Dominos pizza, but definitely to be expected on a "veggie" pizza from any independent pizza place.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by rkomorn »

throwway120385 wrote: post #218
rkomorn wrote: post #130

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It's not particularly sliceable, meltable, or all that edible on its own. That rules out many cheese applications for me. Then again, I'm French, so our takes on cheese may be very different! :)

Try buying it brined.

Pretty sure I have before but... what'll that change?

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by watwut »

krapp wrote: post #239
watwut wrote: post #228

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As an European, I find the definition of European that excludes Spaniards super weird. Likewise, not counting Spaniards into white is weird too, but at least it does not betray complete lack of knowledge about what counts as Europe.

>As an European, I find the definition of European that excludes Spaniards super weird. Because you are, as I suspect many people will, intentionally misreading the context of my comment. I am implying that the use of "European" herein does not literally refer to the geographic region known as "Europe," but rather that in the context of a statement about the likely physical appearance of Jesus it should be understood…

1.) Look, Spaniards are Europeans by any reasonable definition. They are part of Western Europe.

2.) Traditional western depiction of Jesus looking like Spaniards would be no exception. Traditional western depiction of Jesus tend to look sorta kinda like locals do.

3.) Europeans do have wild range of eye colors and hair colors. The eye color and hair being some specific colors even for whites is weird, because even whitey whites have all kind of hair colors and eye colors.

> "European" is a politically correct descriptor for the common set of physical traits often described as "white,

No it is not and to the extend it is, it is absurd whistleblowing attempt - the one that ends up redefine Western Europe as a place that excludes Spaniards.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by stockresearcher »

borski wrote: post #151
Buildstarted wrote: post #69

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I read a long time ago that Fran Drescher of The Nanny fame was huge in replacing those audiences with extras instead of random people. https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/flashback/how-fran-...

That’s true, but the article also explains it isn’t nefarious; she had a stalker (after past horrible trauma), and was terrified, so replaced the live audiences with extras. It just happened to work so well it caught on and became a mainstay of sitcoms after that.

The Academy Awards can’t even trust the extras to fill empty seats in the audience, so they use lawyers and accountants who have already signed NDAs with the Academy for their day jobs.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by shiomiru »

kragen wrote: post #182
eloisant wrote: post #144

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Yes, in the same way I chuckle when I hear people (often practicing martial arts) talking about how "a Sensei" would be a word you can't translate, to talk about some kind of magical mentor... Dude, it just means "teacher" or "professor".

That's exactly why you can't translate it: it has a word that is an exact denotational equivalent but with totally different connotations, because English and US culture lack the reverence for professors and other teachers that is implicit in Japan. Like how "tofu" means "soybean curd staple food" in Japan and "soybean curd effeminate, effete abomination" to rednecks.

But that's also completely unremarkable, given that word for word translation in any two languages is expected to be a lossy conversion.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by kragen »

shiomiru wrote: post #258
kragen wrote: post #182

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That's exactly why you can't translate it: it has a word that is an exact denotational equivalent but with totally different connotations, because English and US culture lack the reverence for professors and other teachers that is implicit in Japan. Like how "tofu" means "soybean curd staple food" in Japan and "soybean curd effeminate, effete abomination" to rednecks.

But that's also completely unremarkable, given that word for word translation in any two languages is expected to be a lossy conversion.

Yes, but it's also a common reason for people to use loanwords like sensei, roshi, Schadenfreude, kombu, uni, and okay: they are trying to escape from the connotational trap of their local culture.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by okeuro49 »

It reminds me of the proposal to shake hands at the end of Goldeneye:

> Miyamoto, with a series of suggestions for the game. “One point was that there was too much close-up killing – he found it a bit too horrible. I don’t think I did anything with that input. The second point was, he felt the game was too tragic, with all the killing. He suggested that it might be nice if, at the end of the game, you got to shake hands with all your enemies in the hospital.”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/26/goldeneye...

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