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It risks career. 2 ejections and you won’t fly for the military any more.
Also isn't there like 5-10% fatality rate?
F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
I take it you never flew VFR over Nebraska corn… Yes, papi lights are operated by radio. However, not everyone has fancy radios and only has handhelds, their Nokia phone, or their right arm wave… It’s not all class C+ out there. I will point out that PAPI lights as part of a PCL system are operated using mic clicks on CTAF radio. These systems are expensive and sometimes you’re landing in a grass field and just need…
It’s interesting now that a side effect of LLMs is that people can say anything outside their experience is just a hallucination. I didn’t realize how the fear of hallucination could enable this level of belligerence.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
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I take it you never flew VFR over Nebraska corn… Yes, papi lights are operated by radio. However, not everyone has fancy radios and only has handhelds, their Nokia phone, or their right arm wave… It’s not all class C+ out there. I will point out that PAPI lights as part of a PCL system are operated using mic clicks on CTAF radio. These systems are expensive and sometimes you’re landing in a grass field and just need…
Just to clarify to unfamiliar readers: class deltas exist with ground and tower, and after hours pilot controlled lighting. Untowered class echoes are everywhere, with pilot controlled lighting.
Yes, many untowered airports have pilot controlled lighting via ctaf, as stated in the airport facilities directory. This is very common at class E airports. For example, look at Plattsmouth in Nebraska.
It sounds like your core argument is “some private strips don’t have full infrastructure”. Phil’s private strip does not appear in the AFD, so you as the pilot your flight planning needs to include looking up Phil’s number and calling him to get permission to land and to let him know you’ll need the lights.
If it’s not that then I don’t know what your point is.
Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash
#254If a third of the hydraulic fluid was water, it was like that meme video of the woman who added washer fluid to the car’s oil - no way was that going to work properly.
I'm surprised no one is mentioning this, and the fact the article says this is the second of such incidents... I don't know if this is what actually happened, but it would appear to be a very effective method of sabotage... Simply putting some water in the hydraulic fluid container destined for an F35 is an extremely high risk-adjusted ROI for any saboteurs.
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#255Just want to point out that $200 million is an accounting cost not an actual cost, when this jet crashes, it can be replaced for $90 million and doesn’t require amortization of the program cost or maintenance costs, etc.
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
It risks career. 2 ejections and you won’t fly for the military any more.
It depends on why and your medicals. There's not hard limit of 2.
tho looking at how contracts have traditionally been funded you’d be forgiven for thinking it wasn’t
Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash
#257These planes are huge pieces of shit. No country should be spending money buying these from the US / Lockheed Martin.
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#258So as a pilot you can't override the software to stop it from "thinking that the plane is on the ground" mode? Something similar happened recently with A320 when it didn't want to land on an airfield during emergency unless it was flown in a special mode. But F-35 doesn't have that?
> unless it was flown in a special mode. What fresh hell is that... reboot, jam F8 just as the "Airbus" logo shows up, and then select "Boot in safe mode"?
Have you tried forcing an unexpected reboot?
Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
I take it you never flew VFR over Nebraska corn… Yes, papi lights are operated by radio. However, not everyone has fancy radios and only has handhelds, their Nokia phone, or their right arm wave… It’s not all class C+ out there. I will point out that PAPI lights as part of a PCL system are operated using mic clicks on CTAF radio. These systems are expensive and sometimes you’re landing in a grass field and just need…
It’s interesting now that a side effect of LLMs is that people can say anything outside their experience is just a hallucination. I didn’t realize how the fear of hallucination could enable this level of belligerence.
Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash
#260The article is somewhat sensationalistic. If you read the actual report you will find out that: The pilot was not part of the conference call! What froze was not hydraulic fluid for actuators (in some hydraulic line), but hydraulic fluid in the shock absorbers. The last paragraph of the article and seems to be missing a few words and reads as the investigators blaming the people directly involved, which is essentiall…