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YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

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Re: YouTube made AI enhancements to videos without warning or permission

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Post by netdur »

rurp wrote: post #216
netdur wrote: post #191

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This outrage feels odd, TV has "improved" movies for ages, youtube doing it with machine learning is the same idea, are we really upset because an ear looks a bit clearer?

No, people are upset because Youtube is editing their content without telling them. If they really thought this was a high value add they could have added an enhance button to let creators opt in, as has been done elsewhere. I wouldn't like it if HN started "optimizing" the wording my comments without telling me, even if it made them better along some metric.

You’re conflating editing with rendering, YouTube didn’t overwrite creators's uploads, it applied an ML filter in the streaming/transcode pipeline, the same layer that already resizes, compresses, and tone-maps. That's not "editing my content" any more than your TV's sharpness setting edits a film, An "Enhance" toggle/label would be good UX, but calling it silent edits misdescribes what's happening

PS: this isn't "generative AI" It's basic ML enhancement (denoise/sharpen/tone-map)

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Post by globular-toast »

meowface wrote: post #88
globular-toast wrote: post #25

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Just don't smoke/eat junk/do drugs etc. They put addictive shit in your face and force you to use their bloated interface to access the service.

The response to junk food and cigarettes and drugs is to avoid them, not make them illegal.

Didn't say make them illegal, it's more about advertising and forcing people into situations that make it difficult to say no.

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Post by [deleted] »

discardedrefuse wrote: post #242
crazygringo wrote: post #236

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I don't think you know what "AI slop" means. It's not making the videos look fake, any more than your iPhone does. Most of what's shown in the example video, it might very well be phones applying the effect, not YouTube.

At no point did I say the video IS AI slop. Or that generative AI was used to make it, or the effect youtube applied to it. We actually have no idea what youtube did. We only see the result; which can be subjective. To you, that result looks like it was shot with a phone filter. To me it looks like it was generated with AI. Either way, it doesn't really matter. It's not what the creator intended. Many creators spend…

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Post by akomtu »

Waterluvian wrote: post #104

Last week I went to buy a Philip K Dick eBook while on vacation. It was only $2 and my immediate thought was, “what are the odds this is some weird pirated version that’s full of errors? What if it’s some American version that’s been self-censored by Amazon to be approved by the government? What if it’s been AI enhanced in some way?” Just the consideration of these possibilities was enough to shake the authenticity o…

Authenticity can be proven by saying things that upsets censors. For example, if I mention the Tiananmen square, you can be sure my comment wasn't edited by CCP's LLMs.

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Post by croes »

tempodox wrote: post #231
croes wrote: post #180

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You do realize I just took parents comment and gave an AI the prompt to rewrite it by changing everything negative to a positive?

Thank you for dumping that load of excrement here. Maybe someone can use it as fertilizer.

I gave you a glimpse of the future.

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Post by rchaud »

brookst wrote: post #120
Planktonne wrote: post #102

If AI is as wonderful and world-changing as people claim, it's odd that it's being inserted into products exactly like every other solution in search of a problem.

Would you say the same thing about the internet?

Yeah I would, if "Internet" came with zero safeguards or regulations and corporations put the onus on the user to sift through mountains of spam or mitigate credit card leakage risks when buying something online.

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Post by sixothree »

Dilettante_ wrote: post #197
sixothree wrote: post #182

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What am I looking at? Is this a transcript of a real thread formatted in a flat manner? Or is this fiction?

What I want to say for fun is: "Oooohhhh who knooowsss?" But serious discussion demands the truth: It is fiction, in the style of a twitter thread.

Like the part about the birthdate is supposed to be humor maybe? But Google already knows how old you are.

That's why I think it's funny that they claim they will now be "using AI" to determine if someone is an adult and able to watch certain youtube videos. Google already knows how old you are. It doesn't need a new technique to figure out that you're 11 years old or 39 years old. They're literally just pretending to not know this information.

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Post by pixxel »

pnt12 wrote: post #57
ollysb wrote: post #20

I've seem some game of thrones clips recently in youtube shorts which looked like they'd been generated by ai. I couldn't understand why anyone would have done that to the original good looking material. The only thing I could think was that it was some kind of copyright evasion.

As a fan of the early seasons, I get lots of suggestions for Got clips. I assume that's done by the author to get around copy right blocks. Quite often they also add music, which would make it easier to get around sound detection. I haven't noticed it outside copyrighted material, so it's probably intentional.

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Post by rchaud »

torben-friis wrote: post #53

The recent sinking in quality of youtube as a platform has been awful to watch. Just a couple days ago I got an ad with a Ned Flanders singing about the causes of erectyle dysfunction (!), a huge cocktail of copyright infringement, dangerous medical advice and AI generated slop. Youtube answered the report telling me they've reviewed and found nothing wrong. The constant low quality, extremely intertwined ads start t…

> Youtube answered the report telling me they've reviewed and found nothing wrong.

In other words, their Google Ads account is fully paid up. Copyright infringement only matters if you're a lowly uploader.

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Post by FreakLegion »

lo_zamoyski wrote: post #154
dsign wrote: post #99

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The well is already poisoned. I'm refraining from hiring editors merely because I suspect there's a high chance they'll just use an LLM. All recent books I'm reading is with suspicion that they have been written by AI. However, polished to a point that we humans start to lose our unique tone is what style guides that go into the minutiae of comma placement try do do. And I'm currently reading a book I'm 100% sure has…

> is what style guides that go into the minutiae of comma placement try do do Eh. There might be a tacit presumption here that correctness isn't real, or that style cannot be better or worse. I would reject this notion. After all, what if something is uniquely crap? The basic, most general purpose of writing is to communicate. Various kinds of writing have varying particular purposes. The style must be appropriate to…

dsign's callout of the minutiae of comma placement is a useful starting point because it's largely rhythmic, and monotony, you could say, is the enemy of rhythm. My go-to example here would probably be the comma splice, which is inflicted on people learning to write in English (while at the same time being ignored by more sophisticated writers) but doesn't exist in e.g. French.
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