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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by odo1242 »

cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

It’s true if you buy/compare a random MacBook and a random PC. A 5-year lifespan and good performance is basically guaranteed for all Macs, but you have to make sure you don’t have one of the crap Windows PCs (the ones that do stuff like spinning hard disk boot drives, motherboard attached to flimsy frame without reinforcements, 4GB RAM, etc.)

Even considering this most people still tend to underestimate the lifespan of Windows PCs lol

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by sersi »

asimovfan wrote: post #209
gigatexal wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. My 2013 MacBook Pro lasted just shy of 10 years no issues. My m3 max mbpro I only wish was the larger screen one and not the 13 inch one … oh well. But I suspect it will last me — and be passed down as well — 8-10 years as well. The trackpads are second to none. So are the speakers. The screen are pretty good. I wish mine got even brighter but the m4s do. The keyboard is finally awesome. The OS just works. In f…

I read why you left linux as your main platform.. You say you are "practical now and tired" implying GNU(+linux) is unpractical and tiring, which is perfectly wrong in my opinion. Not only my opinion but also in your own opinion, as you also write how package managers are better in linux, macOS is not as hackable, how much it is locked down etc. So it comes down to this paragraph: "I learned to like nice things. I be…

Well I have a desktop running arch linux as my main computer at home. For my laptop though I use a mbp purely for the build quality because I have never found a laptop that is as good at the current generations of mbps for thermals, trackpad quality, sound quality, screen, battery life.

Now personally I'd be happier running linux and I'm looking forward to arch linux on asahi working on my laptop. But I will use macos (which I used to like but has become steadily worse over the years) just because of the hardware

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by [deleted] »

pjerem wrote: post #80
cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

I’d say it’s barely 3 things : - The trackpad (but other manufacturers now have tolerable alternatives and anyway you can work without it) - The screen : at an equivalent price point (and even more), nothing comes close to Apple screens. The cheapest MacBook have a better screen than most high end PCs. - The audio : Apple truly did some sorcery to get such an awesome sound from machines that are flat as sheet. It’s s…

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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by uuddlrlrbaba »

cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

Compare their used values at 5 years

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by bluecalm »

newsclues wrote: post #230
wolvesechoes wrote: post #181

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Guy is talking about laptop lasting for 5 years as not something that is special, and you respond with awesome sound quality. Apple threads are always so funny.

Have you used the cheap Dells and HP laptops that most people buy (not high end IBM machines)? They tend to be plastic junk. Yes thinkpads are good, but most laptops are trash disposable hardware

I am on my 3rd Thinkpad already and while I still like them they are not close to Apple quality. On my current one keyboard touches the screen when it's closed so the screen becomes dirty quickly. After Windows 11 upgrade it auto-dims on battery after like 30 seconds and I can't figure a way to turn it off. Hibernation never worked properly (apparently AMD/Windows issue). You don't need to deal with any of that on a Macbook. I would switch instantly if I didn't need to run Windows.

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Post by reactordev »

zozbot234 wrote: post #183
reactordev wrote: post #131

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He doesn’t have nano texture, I can guarantee that. His screen probably has fingerprints and glare and all sorts of issues like visible pixels. I’ve owned a hell of a lot of laptops and MacBooks are the best, not because of Mac, but because of the build quality. The touchpad is perfect, the aluminum body is rugged, the screen is amazing, and the audio truly is sorcery thanks to Apple acquiring Beat’s audionet. The wo…

"Visible pixels" are a total non-issue already on a 1080p screen, and a near-non issue on 768p. There's just no ambiguity about this, it's a matter of simple physics. Maybe you'll need to go up to a 1200p screen or thereabouts to cope with crappy rendering on the software side (allowing for a 0.7x factor or so in image spatial bandwidth/resolution due to lack of proper anti-aliasing), but anything above that is just…

I don’t wear glasses, I can see pixels on a 1080p screen just fine whereas on a Retina display or anything with 4k+ I can’t at a normal distance.

Glad you know how my eyes work. You probably will say next that I can’t see the refresh.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by sersi »

gigatexal wrote: post #174
Doohickey-d wrote: post #159

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It's possible to increase the brightness in software on M1, by faking HDR (desktop capture -> scale brightness to HDR -> display). One example: https://www.brightintosh.de/ but there's many others.

you just made my day I am so happy with this I could kiss you!* just saved me a bunch of coin cuz I was considering trading up for a m4 or otherwise to get better brightness amazing! * more a turn of phrase, a hug, a handshake, a thank you thank you thank you all suffice ;-) I insta bought the suggested app

Check out https://github.com/alin23/Lunar it's the most advanced app on mac when it comes to controlling screens

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by fHr »

cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

yep agree, people have really been brainwashed into thinking this isn't normal wtf

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by strix_varius »

wolvesechoes wrote: post #181
pjerem wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d say it’s barely 3 things : - The trackpad (but other manufacturers now have tolerable alternatives and anyway you can work without it) - The screen : at an equivalent price point (and even more), nothing comes close to Apple screens. The cheapest MacBook have a better screen than most high end PCs. - The audio : Apple truly did some sorcery to get such an awesome sound from machines that are flat as sheet. It’s s…

Guy is talking about laptop lasting for 5 years as not something that is special, and you respond with awesome sound quality. Apple threads are always so funny.

Uh he provided counter points to your distortion field comment, he doesn't have to just +1 the exact point of view of the parent comment.

But here I'll bite: I've had MBPs for work for like 15 years now and I bought a personal high spec Thinkpad. I now regret that purchase because my work machine is better than my personal machine in literally every way. My over $2k Thinkpad just sits there gathering dust because I don't want to use it. And unlike MacBooks, the secondary market for it is nothing so I can't just sell it and recover most of the loss.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by riedel »

throwmeaway222 wrote: post #56

I don't know if anyone else agrees, but for some reason no one can replicate the smoothness of the Apple trackpad. And now with that PLUS the heatless apple silicon - I don't think I could go to another OS and the x86 hardware world. I would just feel like I'm in clunky-land. Now don't get me wrong, I like a lot about Linux desktops, but Mac gets a lot of things right. I don't want to take anything away from people m…

I am no fan of touchpads and I am using track points even on my external keyboard (I got a panic beginning of the year since you cannot buy non US versions from Lenovo anymore). However the touchpad on my Z13 is actually pretty decent. I got used to accept the emulation of haptic buttons.
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