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Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Sounds good for the employees, so go Apple?

Giving a pass to trillion dollars companies for them to just come next to something they are interested in, poach employees, steal IP and not give a dim to actual innovators sure will be a great incentive towards companies doing more R&D.

The innovators are the employers. The company doesn’t innovate. So if the employees got taken care of then the actual innovators made out well.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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I never really understood why protecting Massimo in this situation was more important than allowing customers to access a feature in their watch. I get patent law is important, but they seemed more interested in rent-seeking from Apple than actually providing a desirable product that people could benefit from.

"Rent seeking" is original intent of patents, correct? The theory being that this incentivizes invention.

Except the system overlearned and now it incentivizes invention of patents in lieu of actual inventions.

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Yep, my Garmin also has matched the doctors office instrument to the 1% every time.

Which model do you have?

Epix Gen2 in 51mm

I really use the hell out of it. Yeah I can't play solitaire like an iWatch, but the battery lasts 7 days in the backcountry, the flashlight is unbelievably handy while hiking/camping/boondocking, and it helps me be healthy with all of the data. Being able to trigger my inReach is also a nice touch. It's definitely a tool rather than a fashion piece.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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almost as crazy as a patent for a rectangle with rounded corners

Design patents are a form of trademark with a silly name, not real patents.

Design patents expire, unlike trademarks.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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On their best days, they're accurate to within 2-4%. But so many things can trip up the reading, like melanin: As a result, for darker-skinned patients, oxygen saturation readings can read as normal when they are, in fact, dangerously low. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/pulse-oximeters-racial-bia... When everyone starting looking at every percentage point of their SpO2 during COVID as if it were life or death, the…

80% at sea level is very bad. 80% while asleep at 11,500 ft is not unusual. Ref: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10157825/ There’s a chart somewhere in there on mean sleep so2 by elevation

Big news for the 0.18% of the world’s population that lives above 11,500 feet, I guess.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Sounds good for the employees, so go Apple?

Giving a pass to trillion dollars companies for them to just come next to something they are interested in, poach employees, steal IP and not give a dim to actual innovators sure will be a great incentive towards companies doing more R&D.

There is no such thing as “poaching” employees - just paying them a market rate.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Sounds good for the employees, so go Apple?

Giving a pass to trillion dollars companies for them to just come next to something they are interested in, poach employees, steal IP and not give a dim to actual innovators sure will be a great incentive towards companies doing more R&D.

> steal IP

if your IP is just lines on a patent you dont really have much moat in the first place.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Apple was in a patent dispute over this feature with Massimo. Their workaround is to calculate blood oxygen on the iPhone, using the sensors from Apple Watch. The Apple Watch hardware is otherwise the same. The back of the watch shines light of a specific wavelength into your skin and measures the reflected light. Heart rate sensing uses green (525 nm) and infrared (850–940 nm) light; blood oxygen sensing added a red…

Software patents are a scourge.

It's a patent on a physical process for measuring blood oxygen. It's not a software patent.
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