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Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by throawaywpg »

charcircuit wrote: post #226
throawaywpg wrote: post #225

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Prisoners are not subject to minimum wage laws and are routinely paid wages far below it. In fact, the average wage for prisoners seems to much lower than my generous $1.25 an hour. But then, im a benevolent-ish overlord. "They earn, on average, between 13 cents and 52 cents per hour nationwide. " https://www.aclu.org/news/human-rights/captive-labor-exploit...

It's in the tax payers interest that prisoners make as much money as possible, while not threatening the rest of society. My point of bringing up minimum wage is that it is a reference point for the value of human labor that prisoners are competiting against others with.

It's a nice idea. Unfortunately literally nothing about the modern prison system works in the taxpayers interest.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

wkat4242 wrote: post #202
pm90 wrote: post #195

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How will jailing them help? Now the public is on the hook for them. Plus, more jails will be needed if you wanna move all the unhoused in there. Maybe its easier just to build more housing.

They're not the kind of people that can afford housing nor the kind that are able to get a rental contract in the first place. And if they had money they'd just shoot up more. Not trying to diss them but that's just reality. There's very few people homeless because they can't afford it even despite the insane rent prices. Usually it's a ton of untreated mental issues and/or drug addiction. Building more houses will h…

From the data I have seen you are incorrect. Certainly the most visible and disruptive of the homeless are the meth heads and folks with serious mental health problems, but a large chunk are people who simply can't afford a place to live. Los of people living out of their cars out there.

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Post by barryrandall »

jiehong wrote: post #15

Or maybe Starbucks should install a common printer with a fee? The large items policy still makes sense, though

Then they'd have two problems: people camping out in the stores and managing thousands of printers.

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Post by CryptoBanker »

ecshafer wrote: post #213
pm90 wrote: post #195

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How will jailing them help? Now the public is on the hook for them. Plus, more jails will be needed if you wanna move all the unhoused in there. Maybe its easier just to build more housing.

I spent a month in China and saw one homeless person there who was disabled and panhandljng by a tourist location. The subways and trains and stations had no one pissing on the ground, no one sleeping there (except officeworkers resting their eyes on their commute). There were no human feeces on the ground. Maybe, just maybe we dont have to throw our hands up in the air and say theres nothing to do while we allow a s…

In China there might not be people peeing in the subway, but when I was there a couple years ago there were plenty of people (especially children) peeing in the streets

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Post by stockresearcher »

throwaway-blaze wrote: post #192
stockresearcher wrote: post #164

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Chicago has "residential zone parking" for the areas of the city that are primarily residential. For $30 per year per car, you get to park on the street in your local zone (2-3 city blocks). Nobody else is allowed to park on the street in that zone. For visitors, you can buy a sheet of stickers for $1 per sticker that enable 1 day of parking. But you can't buy more than 3 sheets in a month (they keep track). I've alw…

Seattle has this. 2hr parking if you dont have an residential parking zone registration for your car (it's based on license plate). Surprisingly they charge $190/yr per car for this.

> Surprisingly they charge $190/yr per car for this.

Don't feel too bad. In Chicago, it's a $30 optional add-on to the annual sticker that everyone has to buy whether they park on the street or keep the car in a garage. The annual sticker cost is based on the weight of the vehicle; it can run from $100 to $500 per year.

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Post by forinti »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #4
jalapenos wrote: post #3

I feel genuinely sad for anyone who's in such a desperate spot that they're doing this

What makes you think they’re desperate? IME people from Asian cultures sometimes have ways of thinking that strike at least me personally as basically alien. And then my brain interpolates their motives wrong based on biases that are shaped by western versions of politeness etc.

The apartment is small; the missus wants you out of it so that she can clean it; you have a deadline; there's a café nearby; bingo.

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Post by doublerabbit »

bombcar wrote: post #243
doublerabbit wrote: post #140

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> I worked for a Japanese company. Paper is a big deal, there. About time they evolved to the next level then. My point still sticks. Paper waste is a large impact to climate change. We shouldn't be using paper anymore, why do we proceed to waste such as by printing out email's?

Have you actually worked out how much paper waste is? It’s minor and minuscule compared to basically everything else.

Still requires a tree to be culled for the paper.

It's old fashion and no longer serves purpose in the 1st world countries.

Why we still use paper I do not know, I don't. Tell me what for and why it can't be digital.

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #245
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #219

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"A small group of people [who] make our cities unlivable"... you mean, real estate developers?

The people who are regularly blocked from building housing are the ones making our cities unlivable?

Well, I was obviously kidding, developers who build overpriced housing, or unneeded office or retail are part of the problem just like developers who build homes, especially affordable ones, are part of the solution.

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

pm90 wrote: post #195
dismalaf wrote: post #162

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Homeless people do it all the time in certain cities. And because judges won't jail them for crimes police have stopped trying.

How will jailing them help? Now the public is on the hook for them. Plus, more jails will be needed if you wanna move all the unhoused in there. Maybe its easier just to build more housing.

The public is already on the hook for them. With jails at least we get our public spaces back
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