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A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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I remember this blog post coming across HN when it was posted: https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/07/07/support/ It's a good story, but what I'm remembering and is relevant here is this: > At some point, I realized that if I wrote a wiki page and documented the things that we were willing to support, I could wait about six months and then it would be like it had always been there. Authoritarians and fascists recognize…

I am trivializing the LOC Constitution page thing and nothing you can say is going to make me stop, because the conspiracy theory behind it doesn't make any sense. By continuing to defend it, you're making my point for me about this Intel story (where malfeasance would make sense!). But we're going around in circles and should probably just let this go.

In this thread: a household name in the infosec field tells us to chill out and let our guard down, despite a pattern of abuse and contempt for democratic norms not seen in developed Western countries since the 1930s.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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I am trivializing the LOC Constitution page thing and nothing you can say is going to make me stop, because the conspiracy theory behind it doesn't make any sense. By continuing to defend it, you're making my point for me about this Intel story (where malfeasance would make sense!). But we're going around in circles and should probably just let this go.

In this thread: a household name in the infosec field tells us to chill out and let our guard down, despite a pattern of abuse and contempt for democratic norms not seen in developed Western countries since the 1930s.

Super normal response to a temporary website glitch at the 9th most popular online copy of the US Constitution.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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I am trivializing the LOC Constitution page thing and nothing you can say is going to make me stop, because the conspiracy theory behind it doesn't make any sense. By continuing to defend it, you're making my point for me about this Intel story (where malfeasance would make sense!). But we're going around in circles and should probably just let this go.

Actually your original point was: >Eh. Without getting anywhere near the merits of this particular fracas, the federal government has gotten deeply involved in critiquing the management of companies like Lockheed and Boeing, both for national security reasons and because of the importance of those companies to the economy. Easy to see Intel fitting into that mold in 2025. Which was you saying "this Intel thing is NBD…

I have no idea if it's no big deal or not, only that it's not unprecedented and of all the companies you'd expect to see something like this happen at in a normal administration, this is the one.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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I view Intel as a company that has a huge number of missed opportunities: 1. They have excellent engineering resources - why didn't they just take their ARC cards and add more RAM to them? People are dropping $2K+ on the 5090 with 32GB and would surely pay $1200+ for an ARC with 32GB or even much more for one with 64GB or higher. Absolute performance wouldn't be the benchmark; being able to load larger models would m…

> They have excellent engineering resources - why didn't they just take their ARC cards and add more RAM to them? People are dropping $2K+ on the 5090 with 32GB and would surely pay $1200+ for an ARC with 32GB or even much more for one with 64GB or higher. Absolute performance wouldn't be the benchmark; being able to load larger models would make for excellent price/performance, for many lower-end uses. This one also…

> TBH I think whatever body (JEDEC I'd guess) needs to either make DDR6 128bit

That would require twice the number of pins and traces on each DIMM with corresponding extra pins on the CPU package as well and associated interconnects which would add heat as well. You end up with similar problems when you increase the number of channels per DIMM. CPU packages are strained as it is; I don't think the tradeoffs are worth it to increase system memory bandwidth on consumer systems.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Actually your original point was: >Eh. Without getting anywhere near the merits of this particular fracas, the federal government has gotten deeply involved in critiquing the management of companies like Lockheed and Boeing, both for national security reasons and because of the importance of those companies to the economy. Easy to see Intel fitting into that mold in 2025. Which was you saying "this Intel thing is NBD…

I have no idea if it's no big deal or not, only that it's not unprecedented and of all the companies you'd expect to see something like this happen at in a normal administration, this is the one.

Again, what is the precedent for the president of the united states to publicly call on a CEO to resign, in the absence of a major scandal or company failure that has required the government to intervene to save the public / investors / etc?

You keep saying it's the same old shit but when people point out the differences you change the subject. You're basically a troll.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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> It's honestly wild that a sitting US president is calling out specific company CEOs This truly never happened before. Oh wait: https://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/gm-ceo-resigns-at-oba...

Not an apt comparison. GM needed $50 billion in government funds just to stay alive.

So we're moving from "it never happened, it's crazy!" to "of course it's happened before, but it's different this time, so I just falsely pretended the time before didn't happen"? Of course each case is different. But Presidents interfered in economy of private enterprise for a while - including criticizing CEOs, firing CEOs, and many other intrusive acts - especially after (and including) FDR, and pretending nobody before Trump ever did it is either ignorant or disingenuous. If you don't like what Trump is doing, great, explain why, but don't falsely claim things like that didn't happen before. They did.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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I’m struggling to believe you are asking in good faith. He answered your question and your immediate response is to try and defend what the president did in terms of violating norms. It seems like youve had an agenda since before you asked the question

I was asking in good faith, so not sure what to tell you. My agenda was to understand why public versus privately calling for a CEO's removal is better than the other since they have the same goal, but I can understand why someone would prefer one over the other.

I mean I answered that above. Not sure what else you want.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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I'll answer this in earnest, assuming you're asking in good faith. The president commands an enormous amount of power, and has an army of people who will do his bidding and simply adopt his opinions on any number of subjects. Shouting out to millions of his followers to state that the CEO of a private company is "CONFLICTED" and must resign is, by any definition, propaganda. Propaganda that changes the minds of the c…

I am asking in good faith and I understand why there would be a preference towards private versus public. It sounds like Trump does not care to attempt a private conversation as he wants Tan out. The Cadence settlement is likely the only public info we have about Tan's conflicts, the government has more info and they aren't going to spend time working through private channels, though it sounds like Tan is trying that…

Did you ask a question? I’m not seeing one.

If the government has more info that’s even more reason to make this a matter of governance, and not twitter, IMO.

Genuine question, what do you think was the purpose of trump making that a public grievance instead of working on it directly with Tan?

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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I was asking in good faith, so not sure what to tell you. My agenda was to understand why public versus privately calling for a CEO's removal is better than the other since they have the same goal, but I can understand why someone would prefer one over the other.

I mean I answered that above. Not sure what else you want.

That reply was to lovich.
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