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Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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What is your argument that Safari is not a good browser? Using market forces to encourage more consolidation into a single engine is *bad*.

> What is your argument that Safari is not a good browser? It doesn't support Ublock Origin.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44795825 ?

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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i take it you dont use desktops or laptops then?

Most people on desktops / laptops interact with these services via a web browser, which has very limited permissions on the system. Not sure how you could control that tightly on a fully open iOS.

So iOS must allow web apps.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

#253

Everybody is talking about Chrome, but I tell ya what I have that disabled on my Android in favor of Firefox. Firefox on mobile with full-fat uBlock Origin is the closest thing to parity with desktop web access you can get. I don't just block ads, I block elements on sites I don't care about with :has-text RegEx rules. You can't do that on Chrome even on desktop anymore. I'm this close to swapping to the Android as m…

I will second Google Messages, your SMS messages go to your phone and your desktop at the same time. Easily respond from either. I don't know if SMS messaging gets to iMessage, because I don't use Apple products.

I think it bounces thru your phone since if your phone is off you can't use it on the web.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Fair enough, and then your iOS should just report the list of permissions the app demanded, maybe even compare to the AppStore version, and then let people make their choice. It doesn't have to be a "one click" easy way to make mistakes. Most users won't bother to go through 3 extra steps to install the "alternative" app if they aren't missing anything in the regular one. The OS should anyway sandbox everything, and…

> and then let people make their choice. Some apps are de-facto unavoidable, like Facebook, Whatsapp and X.

Twitter is incredibly avoidable. Everything about it is likely faked and exaggerated. Revenue/profit for sure. Number of users for sure. Number of users that aren’t bots for sure too.

I use Twitter everyday because of my politics interest but it isn’t that popular any more (I know the supposed numbers say otherwise)

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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post #178

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Imagine banning sale and import, wonder how long Apple stores have to be closed for Apple to give in....

Wouldn't people in Japan riot because they can't buy iPhones and be part of the tribe? There are few things in life people like more than their iPhones.

Hehehe, like Apple tried to pull "we'll keep back AI from EU as a punishment" ? Were there riots? :)

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Apple must provide opt-in or opt-out for the lockdown.

You can choose between a locked down system, iOS, and a free one, Android. No-one is forcing you to buy an Apple device.

And you will get 20 times telemetry as a bonus: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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post #147

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> and then let people make their choice. Some apps are de-facto unavoidable, like Facebook, Whatsapp and X.

They absolutely are not. No more than alcohol or tobacco addiction are de-facto unavoidable. And the people who are absolutely addicted to those platforms will always have the option of the web page no matter what you do to the app.

WhatsApp is used to talk to people across the world. It’s not like tobacco at all.

If I got off WhatsApp which I use for like 10 minutes a week, I’d have a harder time communicating with a handful of people outside the US

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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OP, nuker, please answer, i'm genuinely curious what you think about this

"Former Facebook insiders explain why the company is making such a big fuss over Apple's upcoming privacy change" https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/11/why-facebook-is-so-upset... I have not heard similar tantrum from FB over Android. Makes sense as it is made by an Ad company.

that was not the question the question was:

You:

>Then Facebook will grant its app all permission entitlements, and will direct all users to opt-out lockdown for the app to work.

input_sh:

> Are they doing that on Android right now?

So is Facebook granting its app all permission entitlements, and directing all users to opt-out lockdown for the app to work on Android?

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Everybody is talking about Chrome, but I tell ya what I have that disabled on my Android in favor of Firefox. Firefox on mobile with full-fat uBlock Origin is the closest thing to parity with desktop web access you can get. I don't just block ads, I block elements on sites I don't care about with :has-text RegEx rules. You can't do that on Chrome even on desktop anymore. I'm this close to swapping to the Android as m…

FF with uBO was the killer app that kept me on android. If Apple let me run that, I'd have bought into it years ago. Have you considered messages.google.com? I think you need to use Google's messages app (not the Samsung messager or equivalent) but it does as you describe and supports RCS.

Kagi made a safari based w är my browser that can use both FF and chrome addons on iOS. I use full uBO and I still don’t care about cookies.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

#260

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> What is your argument that Safari is not a good browser? It doesn't support Ublock Origin.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44795825 ?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44796762

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44804921

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