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You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by thejazzman »

neoden wrote: post #250
paraboul wrote: post #44

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Remember that Zed hasn't reached 1.0. On other platform, it is much faster and consume much less battery. Just like ghostty, to me the most attracting feature is knowing my editor/term is not backed by a browser engine.

> the most attracting feature is knowing my editor/term is not backed by a browser engine How and why is this important? At any time I have two browsers with dozens of tabs and on top of it a slack client active, how another instance of a browser engine could hurt in this mad world?

try it and found out; it's not about memory overhead (maybe it is to someone), it's that it works so much better than web backed things. it's just an absurdly fast/responsive/delightful thing to experience after years of everything going the other way [while hardware actually gets faster]

and i say this as a proud career long web developer. i just really like zed.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by neoden »

thejazzman wrote: post #251
neoden wrote: post #250

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> the most attracting feature is knowing my editor/term is not backed by a browser engine How and why is this important? At any time I have two browsers with dozens of tabs and on top of it a slack client active, how another instance of a browser engine could hurt in this mad world?

try it and found out; it's not about memory overhead (maybe it is to someone), it's that it works so much better than web backed things. it's just an absurdly fast/responsive/delightful thing to experience after years of everything going the other way [while hardware actually gets faster] and i say this as a proud career long web developer. i just really like zed.

Zed was my daily driver for almost a year. When it's working fine and not drawing the mouse cursor at 3 FPS it feels pretty much as anything else in terms of perceived speed. I saw mentions that you need to be younger to notice the difference. Like you don't hear frequencies above 18 KHz if you're more than 20 years old. I get the idea, I just don't see where it is connected to my real world experience

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by cess11 »

xedrac wrote: post #225
cess11 wrote: post #181

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Is it now possible to import .vimrc, or otherwise configure e.g. the sequence j k to execute Escape?

You can easily configure jk for escape. I don't know about importing .vimrc

Can you explain how?

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by t_mahmood »

f311a wrote: post #93
t_mahmood wrote: post #73

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LazyVim makes it trivial, actually. I would take nvim/vim over VSCode any day.

Not really, it installs even more plugins. Some of them are unnecessary. Ideally, every time you update or install a plugin, it must be reviewed. I just don't wanna deal with it and trust plugin developers. I already got bitten by an infected Python library (that used to be legit). I treat plugins the same since they can be used in supply chain attacks.

You have to trust VS Code plugins too, along with trusting MS not using your code to improve their AI suggestions, or doing a sudden rug pull. All three happened if I remember correctly.

You can easily enable/disable plugins in LazyVim, and they are simple Lua Script/VIM scripts easy to review. I don't think VSCode would be that easy.

And even with more plugins, nvim/vim will be much more performant then VSCode.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by mmmmbbbhb »

v3ss0n wrote: post #246
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #197

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Not currently using Zed but low input latency is one of the things that’s kept me on Sublime Text over the years. Might give Zed a shot and see how it stacks up. The other two editors I use a lot are Xcode and Android Studio, and while the first is usually fine, Android Studio (IntelliJ) feels servicable but a touch sluggish in comparison. Given the popularity of JetBrains IDEs I’m a bit surprised that there’s not mo…

Low latency isn't working well on Linux for zer

Agree . Zed has the worst input latency of any app I've used on Linux.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by dingdingdang »

kevmo314 wrote: post #79
gwking wrote: post #41

I went from VS Code to Cursor, then got frustrated with Cursor breaking keybindings and other things, tried to go back to VS Code but missed the superior tab completion. Then I gave Zed a long hard try, but after over a month of daily usage I went back to Cursor again, just for the tab completion quality. I don't use any of the chat or agent features, but for me Cursor's tab completion is a step forward in work effic…

I've been working on a better tab completion model that stays as an extension: https://ninetyfive.gg/ The main feature I really care about is low latency, which is my main gripe about Copilot. There's still a ways to go to match Cursor's quality but I'm chipping away at it!

Good work dude! It's way more functional to integrate the overall ecosystem rather than re-forking vscode ad infinitum!

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by bheadmaster »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #177
bheadmaster wrote: post #172

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> Enable_AI COULD have the connotation (to some) of just enabling the visibility of the feature, whereas Disable_AI gives more of a sense of shutting it off. Personally, I don't feel much difference between the two. I doubt that an average reasonable person would either.

Well, I do feel a distinct connotational difference, but then again, I could be the only one I suppose. And if the average person doesn't care, then why argue about it at all? And how many average people will be using Zed anyway?

> why argue about it at all

Because double negatives are confusing. Enable_AI = true is much clearer than Disable_AI = false.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by drcongo »

johnfn wrote: post #49

Zed seems really nice, and the usability has come a really long way in the last couple of months. That being said, I have one issue, and I hesitate to even bring it up because it seems so shallow: I hate all the themes! They all look so ugly and amateur. I know this is a really trivial thing, it's like complaining I don't like Python because it uses whitespace for indent or something, but I just can't get over it. VS…

I just made my own. Took about 15 minutes and now it's the best looking app on my Mac.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by adastra22 »

zzo38computer wrote: post #241
adastra22 wrote: post #232

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Do you not use the tab key to indent code?

I don't indent with tabs, but I also don't usually use autocompletion in the text editor. I usually use tab completion in the command shell.

In most code editors, hitting tab increases the indent even if you are using spaces (e.g. it will add two or four spaces). But now you don’t know if it will increase indent or arbitrarily rewrite your code.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by adham-omran »

koito17 wrote: post #134

Started using Zed about a year ago and, besides Magit, it has managed to completely replace Emacs for me. I was missing a good debugger for a long time, but that also went GA a month ago or so. One thing that goes underappreciated is the input latency and how light on resources the editor is overall. Whenever I switch tabs to a web browser (or any web app), I can feel the lag in typing now, despite the fact I use an…

What about other Emacs functions such as org-mode? Or did you never use them to begin with?
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