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Post by aprilthird2021 »

terminalshort wrote: post #229
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #186

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> Why can't I just chat with an AI bot and get my prescription? You don't understand why the person who dispenses dangerous drugs to the public needs to be a licensed professional and not a chatbot who called me a genius earlier today when I said I want to code up a script to pull some data from an endpoint and decode the data so it's human readable?

Very few prescription drugs are dangerous. Of those few that are, almost none of them are more dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes, and boy are the people who dispense those to the public not licensed professionals.

So because liquor store clerks aren't professionals we should let Eliza Chatbot 2.0 dispense any prescription drug to anyone? Wild thinking

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Post by WhaleClub »

rkuykendall-com wrote: post #250
landl0rd wrote: post #226

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Most frontier LLMs skew somewhere on the libleft quadrant of the political compass. This includes grok 4 btw. This is probably because American "respectable" media has a consistent bias in this direction. I don't really care about this with media. But media outlets are not "gatekeepers" to the extent that LLMs are, so this is probably a bad thing with them. We should either have a range of models that are biased in d…

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Post by daveidol »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #243
landl0rd wrote: post #226

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Most frontier LLMs skew somewhere on the libleft quadrant of the political compass. This includes grok 4 btw. This is probably because American "respectable" media has a consistent bias in this direction. I don't really care about this with media. But media outlets are not "gatekeepers" to the extent that LLMs are, so this is probably a bad thing with them. We should either have a range of models that are biased in d…

Except we've see what happens when you try to "correct" that alignment: you get wildly bigoted output. After Grok called for another Holocaust, Elon Musk said that it's "surprisingly hard to avoid both woke libtard cuck and mechahitler" [1]. The Occam's Razor explanation is that there's just not that much ideological space between an "anti-woke" model and a literal Nazi! [1] https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1944132…

Or there’s not sufficient published material in that space because everyone is afraid of being attacked and called a Nazi for simply having a dissenting opinion (except for actual neo Nazis who don’t care)

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

landl0rd wrote: post #226
Spivak wrote: post #105

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Most frontier LLMs skew somewhere on the libleft quadrant of the political compass. This includes grok 4 btw. This is probably because American "respectable" media has a consistent bias in this direction. I don't really care about this with media. But media outlets are not "gatekeepers" to the extent that LLMs are, so this is probably a bad thing with them. We should either have a range of models that are biased in d…

> We should either have a range of models that are biased in different directions (as we have with media) or work to push them towards the center.

Why? We should just aspire to educate people that chatbots aren't all-knowing oracles. The same way we teach people media literacy so they don't blindly believe what the tube says every evening

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Post by ta8645 »

electrondood wrote: post #249
ta8645 wrote: post #138

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Morality and religion are entirely independent dimensions.

Perhaps, but it is a historical fact that religions often define themselves on their moral superiority. Anyone can claim that their position is the one that is morally correct. If you just assert it without any supporting evidence, you're doing the same thing religions have been guilty of for a lot of history. In any case, it's not useful in the context of a discussion like this one, where it is little more than a blanket dismissal and adds nothing to the argument.

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Post by firejake308 »

landl0rd wrote: post #226
Spivak wrote: post #105

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Most frontier LLMs skew somewhere on the libleft quadrant of the political compass. This includes grok 4 btw. This is probably because American "respectable" media has a consistent bias in this direction. I don't really care about this with media. But media outlets are not "gatekeepers" to the extent that LLMs are, so this is probably a bad thing with them. We should either have a range of models that are biased in d…

I actually agree with your take, that a model trained on a dump of the Internet will be left-leaning on average, BUT I want to reiterate that obvious indoctrination (see the incident with Grok and South Africa, or Gemini with diverse Nazis) is also terrible and probably worse

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Post by h4ck_th3_pl4n3t »

timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

I wonder what Chomsky would have to say about this.

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Post by landl0rd »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #254
landl0rd wrote: post #226

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Most frontier LLMs skew somewhere on the libleft quadrant of the political compass. This includes grok 4 btw. This is probably because American "respectable" media has a consistent bias in this direction. I don't really care about this with media. But media outlets are not "gatekeepers" to the extent that LLMs are, so this is probably a bad thing with them. We should either have a range of models that are biased in d…

> We should either have a range of models that are biased in different directions (as we have with media) or work to push them towards the center. Why? We should just aspire to educate people that chatbots aren't all-knowing oracles. The same way we teach people media literacy so they don't blindly believe what the tube says every evening

Because you can't do that. Most of the population is at the wrong point on the normal distributions of capacity or caring enough. Even the NPR listeners will still nod sagely when it tells them "akshually air conditioning doesn't cool a room, it cools the air."

We already spend high within the OECD to not get many of our students to a decent level of reading and math proficiency, let alone to critical thinking. This isn't something we know how to fix, and depending on that assumption is dangerous.

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Post by landl0rd »

rkuykendall-com wrote: post #250
landl0rd wrote: post #226

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Most frontier LLMs skew somewhere on the libleft quadrant of the political compass. This includes grok 4 btw. This is probably because American "respectable" media has a consistent bias in this direction. I don't really care about this with media. But media outlets are not "gatekeepers" to the extent that LLMs are, so this is probably a bad thing with them. We should either have a range of models that are biased in d…

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Sigh. That old line. Look man, I don't know if it was a crack or a serious comment (this being the internet) but I'll assume it was a comment in good faith.

Journalism and academia tend to attract people with more of a liberal bent. I'm not even accusing them all of being partisan hacks, but as y'all like to say, subconscious biases influence us.

This is like me saying "economic productivity has a well-known right-wing bias" or something goofy like that.

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Post by tomlockwood »

landl0rd wrote: post #259
rkuykendall-com wrote: post #250

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Sigh. That old line. Look man, I don't know if it was a crack or a serious comment (this being the internet) but I'll assume it was a comment in good faith. Journalism and academia tend to attract people with more of a liberal bent. I'm not even accusing them all of being partisan hacks, but as y'all like to say, subconscious biases influence us. This is like me saying "economic productivity has a well-known right-wi…

This is an incredibly funny thing to say in the face of Murdoch.
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