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Yeah they can definitely be archaic. I’ve stuck with them because they are the only provider offered to me that covers double jaw surgery. The cost of paying out of pocket for that would be prohibitively expensive.
What did you need double jaw surgery for?
The Hollow Men of Hims
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I am unsure why you have been down voted because fundamentally your point is correct. Health is a fully regulated space, and no entity should be supplying medical products without adherence to requirements appropriate to their role. Compounding GLP-1 seems to me to be in the higher bar space.
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#253>The real tragedy is not that Hims exists, but that it works so perfectly. Every day, thousands of people choose their compounded weight-loss drugs over FDA-approved alternatives, their combination ED pills over established single-ingredient treatments, their algorithmic consultations over actual medical care. They make these choices not because the products are better, but because the entire experience has been opti…
What are you smoking? I’m a normal middle class guy with insurance and my PCP is an overworked but very cool guy who I’ve spent years getting to know. All of my peers in their 50s have similar PCPs.
While I agree the GOP is doing everything in its power to make sure lower income families cannot get good healthcare, lots of people actually have it. Not sure why you’re lying to make a point.
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#254Semaglutide / GLP-1 compounding is not limited to just Hims. Lot's of pharmacies do it. The manufacturer (Novo Nordisk) charges 5x-10x for the exact same thing. The author calls the GLP-1s used in compounding "Chinese Knockoffs", but offers no evidence of quality control problems, and is instead relying on the reader's prejudices. GLP-1 drugs may be a game-changer for obesity and diabetes, the same way that cholester…
Agreed. The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. If there's evidence that Hims' drugs are harmful: Present it. The article doesn't. I know tons of people who have used Hims and companies like it, for a variety of things. I'm aware of no specific or general problems anyone has had with their medication.
Factually incorrect. A country is not a race. You cannot be racist against a country, by definition, and China in particular has a very well-documented pattern of making low-quality clones of products from other countries (often using IP stolen from those countries), so the concern is well-justified.
More generally, the use of "racism" as a response to well-justified concerns about products of a country is completely irredeemable. It's logically invalid, emotionally manipulative, breaks the HN guidelines, is blatantly anti-intellectual, and is mostly used as a propaganda technique by state actors. Please keep this drivel off of platforms like HN that are designed for intellectual curiosity.
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Agreed. The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. If there's evidence that Hims' drugs are harmful: Present it. The article doesn't. I know tons of people who have used Hims and companies like it, for a variety of things. I'm aware of no specific or general problems anyone has had with their medication.
> The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. Factually incorrect. A country is not a race. You cannot be racist against a country, by definition, and China in particular has a very well-documented pattern of making low-quality clones of products from other countries (often using IP stolen from those countries), so the concern is well-justified. More…
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> The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. Factually incorrect. A country is not a race. You cannot be racist against a country, by definition, and China in particular has a very well-documented pattern of making low-quality clones of products from other countries (often using IP stolen from those countries), so the concern is well-justified. More…
It's interesting to consider why criticisms of China in particular are often interpreted as racism. No one makes the same accusation if you criticize America. Part of the explanation may be that China is much more ethnically homogenous: Han Chinese are 92% of the population. It seems that in the name of opposing racism, people are effectively rewarding China for being an ethnostate.
My understanding of criticism of China (in particular - although I have also seen this effect with many other countries) being interpreted as racism is very different than the explanation that you provided, but that's too long to get into. Meanwhile, this is an extremely interesting second-order effect that you pointed out that I hadn't realized before. Thank you for pointing this out!
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I’ve heard of this, also known as concierge medicine right? But the figures I’ve seen quoted for such service usually begin in the four digits, sometimes five digits, annually.
I've anecdotally done some research and in SoCal a true concierge medicine for what I would be looking for with a brick-and-mortar location and imaging on-site is ~$5000/yr.
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I've anecdotally done some research and in SoCal a true concierge medicine for what I would be looking for with a brick-and-mortar location and imaging on-site is ~$5000/yr.
Curious what that fee covers beyond having direct access to the physician (and even there, beyond just consultations). If you needed imaging work or even procedures or surgeries - would that be extra fees?
One of the huge benefits for me has been that I have much simpler access to specialists. They are somehow able to punch through a lot of the scheduling bullshit for me, so when I do need to see a specialist, I am not waiting for weeks or months; Sometimes I've been able to get appointments at a specialist through them within a few days instead of the few weeks it would have been had I tried doing the same myself.
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#259Interesting how a few rare commenters strongly agree with this article and yet most comments here don't. Perhaps HN is full of people with high digital literacy, relatively high reasoning ability etc. People like this can benefit from the service. The article's core point is that Hims uses unethical marketing. Maybe the HN crowd is privileged: people here may be able to resist marketing. The article's unstated point…
There is a difference in that hospitals and drug companies provide useful care while Hims more or less doesn't. But the amount of resources extracted by the health care system is way higher. It's an open question of whose worse.
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Americans are so much more fat and unhealthy than aussies. That’s the primary reason why it’s so much cheaper in Australia.
I’m not sure that’s true. The average BMI in the US isn't much higher than in Australia.